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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago

This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Before the election some asshole on Lemmy said if I voted for Harris, I’d have “Palastine blood on my hands.” Well I voted for her anyway because (and I can’t stress this enough) she was the most viable candidate to beat trump, and unlike trump, there might have been a chance to save at least some Palestinian lives.

Well trump won, and it was in part because of those assholes who refused to vote for Harris. The fucker who said that is the one with the blood on his hands.

I am positive that the protest voter campaign was 100% pro-trump. They wanted an Israel victory. Probably paid for by AIPAC.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 52 points 3 days ago

I always like to point out that ex-slave Frederick Douglas bypassed a candidate who was strong for Abolition in order to work with Abe Lincoln, who was willing to keep slavery if it meant preserving the Union.

Douglas decided it was smarter for him to back the candidate who was most likely to win, in hopes that Lincoln could be persuaded once in office.

[-] Snowies@lemmy.zip 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pragmatism is intolerable to extremists.

Any concession is viewed as total defeat.

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

Except for actual total defeat, which is seen as a 'moral victory.'

See "Spanish Civil War," "The Black Panthers," and "Rosa Luxemburg"

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Wait, what should they have done differently in the Spanish civil war and in case of Rosa Luxemburg in your opinion?

What concession/compromise should they have done in order to stop their defeat by fascists/monarchists?

Or do you mean specifically that the extremists like to talk about those "moral victories" but dont want to contribute to politics and use compromise, without meaning that those examples of yours could have been saved by a compromise?

[-] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago
[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Sorry, but internet and all its inhabitants have made me ask for confirmation regarding how something is meant.

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Just like any other zealot, religious or otherwise

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[-] rossman@lemmy.zip 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This comment is straight out of the Republican playbook. There's no blame on previous Republicans because they need to shift the narrative away from them. Anyways I'm convinced the left won the vote and voting machines were tampered with.

https://thehill.com/business/5547784-dominion-voting-systems-liberty-vote/

People should see the change of hands before the election.

edit: dont think this is out of the republican playbook after discourse, going to do more research before i make claims. https://prri.org/spotlight/breaking-down-the-differences-between-voters-and-non-voters-in-the-2024-election/

[-] mattyroses@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago
[-] rossman@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Thanks for the correction. I'll just say right propaganda made me more stupid.

Edit: more like lemmy community is educated

[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh fuck right off. The 'your vote means nothing anyway' shit is whats actually out of the playbook. Because its pigs like you that continue to blame the Dems for everything and actually ignore the Republicans.

Dumbass trying to pull the 'no u' childish shit for being lazy as fuck.

[-] matthurtme@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Republicans are fascists, Dems are just fascist lite.

I wish Fred Hampton would Jesus himself back and run for President

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago

There's no blame on previous Republicans

Yeah literally nobody here is saying that. Stop fucking lying.

[-] rossman@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Ya my comment sounded too aggressive. I just meant to say that the top comment is making us blame non voters more.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

It's not that they deserve more blame, it's just pretty pointless to blame the people everyone knew were going to vote for Trump anyway, there was never any saving them and they're too disconnected from reality for blame-and-shame to have any effect on them. There are actually reasonable people who were non-voters and non-viable 3rd-party voters who could have shifted the vote, the idea is to keep those people from doing that again in an effort to save democracy. We blame them because they are functionally fascists and there's a chance they might actually feel some shame about that. That chance drops to zero with actual Republican voters.

[-] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 days ago

It's what Biden primary voters voted for

[-] syreus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Both. Both of these things can be true.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

At least some democrats are changing their tune on Israel and these latest primaries are looking good. Hopefully they'll win those protest voters back.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

yawn

There never were that many if those. Harris was going to lose regardless, as was Biden. They should have held real primaries and not rig it for the democratic socialist candidates to lose.

[-] Zos_Kia@jlai.lu 8 points 3 days ago

Sorry but no. A candidate that loses by 1.5% is far from a candidate that was "going to lose regardless".

People act like it was this huge strategic blunder but it's easy to talk shit once the battle is lost. Democratic socialists were not particularly popular outside of your online social circle, maybe they'd have tanked even harder.

Now I understand, if you opted to sit this one out, that it feels better to tell yourself Harris was going to lose anyway. But in 2024 every vote counted and every non voter was a willing ally of the trump regime.

[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Run more neoliberal, zionist dems, it'll only get worse

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Yes, we know. That's why we have primaries. Pay attention, Jesus Christ

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 3 days ago

You have those? Fooled me.

Also you do know how insane it is that your so called democracy relies on unregulated private groups doing a little pre election, right?

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[-] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

"haha you guys are morons watch me punch myself in the dick again!"

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