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[–] 7 points 2 months ago* (12 children)

yeah i remember how shocked i was recently when i told somebody "the farmers don't grow food, the plants grow food". and they responded with "yeah but that's their fate. plants literally exist to be eaten" and i was like "what if you said that about people? some people literally exist to be enslaved?"

point is, we treat nature with no respect about how it feels. this goes for plants but also other animals. it's quite weird if you think about it. anyways, this discussion is getting weird.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    It's pretty horrible. The more I understand abt plants, the more I'm like - shit, this really don't wanna be eaten.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    May I point you towards Friendly Carnivore

    Plants can't run away so they defend themselves with chemical warfare. Most of us can detoxify a lot of the common food plants, but some of the accumulated toxins get most people in the end — a lot of the diseases of aging are effects of the poisons plants use

    At the lowest end they block nutrient absorption like tea blocks iron

    As you say, the more you know the less good they seem

    If you're intolerant of some of the common food plants (for me it's wheat and cocoa. Apparently my ancestors didn't have wheat until 6000 years ago, and cocoa came with the Colombian exchange so no surprise many of British stock can't handle all of those plants' attacks

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Meat really don't wanna be eaten too.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child)

    No beef complains before the captive bolt gun turns the brain off forever

    They are protected from other predators which would give them a much more painful death

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    ...I'm not a vegan but wow. Cattle live a whole life of horror. Pretending that eating meat is more moral than than eating plants because they suffer less is plain deliusion.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Not true: many plants (such as nuts and fruits) demand to be eaten, and some literally cannot continue to grow unless they pass through an animal's digestive tract first.

    What they want is different than what you want.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    The plants want the fruit to be eaten by a specific animal. Human beings do not have any such symbiotic relationship with any plant I know of. You'd get very sick, for example, if you ate a Cassowary Plum.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Ok I might be biased because I eat plants every day but I think it doesn't matter weather plant wanted specific animal to eat it's fruits and all. The only reason they wanted that was because that increased likelihood of reproduction and we take care of that on an industrial scale better* than those animals could ever do. Sure we are also destroying the earth and making it harder for all living creatures so maybe plants were right....

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