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Discussion about socialist market economy. Does socialism have commodity production? Is China a capitalist country because it has commodity production? (en.prolewiki.org)
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[–] 0 points 4 years ago (7 children)

No. China is not a "capitalist" country by Marxist standards. That's my take as someone who has never been to China. I think the people who want to argue that China is capitalist are sus. If China went along with western capitalism then they wouldn't accomplish so much and it would be a great shame. What has the CPC been doing this whole time?

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  • [–] -1 points 4 years ago* (last edited 4 years ago) (6 children)

    • Bails out wall street, the hub of Capitalism

    • Xi Xinping is a multi-millionaire, if not billionaire

    • Sends guns to Capitalist governments in India, Nepal, and the Philippines to kill Communist revolutionaires

    • Consitution enshires private ownership of the means of production into law, in a similar way to how the USA consitution does

    • Has the largest amont of billionaires, more than any other country, even the USA

    • Creates dept-traps and economic colonies in Africa

    • Forces workers to work until 9PM, with little democratic say in the work-place, said work-place being owned by a millionaire or Western megacorporation

    • The stars on its flag represent class collaboration with the bourgeoisie and landlords

    That seems rather Capitalist to me...

    Sources:

    Experences and Challenges in the development of the Chinese Capital Market

    https://caknowledge.com/xi-jinping-net-worth/

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  • [–] 1 point 4 years ago

    大部分工作者还是执行八小时工作制的，从车流量、公共交通运载量来看就能看出。 十二小时工作制的企业通常是低端制造业与互联网行业。 低端制造业可以选择八小时工作制，当然工资会较低。 如果你拒绝加班，公司不应因此开除你，如果公司想要辞退你那么应当依工作年限给予相应补偿。 由此来看，强迫工人加班到九点完全是无稽之谈 你有任何证据表明习近平家里很有钱吗？习近平的父亲曾经也是中国高官，但习近平依然被派到偏远农村地区任职。 生产资料私有制却促进的经济发展，生活水平改善。在中国实行农业集体化的时期因为不合理的制度导致了农民的不信任，也打击了农业生产。在1956年中国的生猪存栏量下降了一半，因为农民不信任合作社制度。这样的情况一直延续到邓小平改革后几年。我始终相信生产资料公有制不是目的，而是改善人民生活的手段。 国旗上的一颗最大的星代表中国共产党，其余四颗星分别代表工人、农民、知识分子与小资产阶级，并且这是在毛泽东时代确立的

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  • [–] 0 points 4 years ago (4 children)

    I do think some of the points are fair

    but then you linked imperialist sources

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  • [–] 0 points 4 years ago (3 children)

    除了第四点外，没有一点是正确的

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  • [–] 0 points 4 years ago (2 children)

    这一切都错了。

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