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Scientists found a cannabis compound that relieves pain without the high (www.sciencedaily.com)
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[–] 46 points 2 months ago (40 children)

Because you’re not allowed to feel good with any medical treatment.

No.

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  • [–] 72 points 2 months ago (35 children)

    Maybe you want to drive a car safely.

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  • [+] -45 points 2 months ago (34 children)

    Then I use paracetamol and codeine, and stay off medicinal cannabis

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  • [–] 57 points 2 months ago (20 children)

    codeine is an opiate. you're not allowed to drive on that.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    let me literally tell you what my pain management MD told me. "Practice doing the sobriety tests on opioids until you can pass" i think i had the worst doctor.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    In UK you can if it doesn't affect your driving.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    and how do you tell if it has? imagine if the standard for alcohol was the same...

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    If you can drive safely then go ahead but if you're impaired by too much of anything that you would drive poorly then don't. I thought this was common sense.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (5 children)

    the uk sticks out in the statistics of legal limits for alcohol in europe at 0.8‰ BAC; most countries are at 0.2 with some having a zero-tolerance policy, because it affects people so differently and it's hard to tell.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

    Interesting, if other countries have less driving accidents then it may be worth considering lowering our legal limit. That is, if we can actually detect something is affecting them. Unless the driver is already driving erratically then we must presume the effects of any drink or other drugs isn't affecting them. Mandatory testing or randomly pulling people over to test them would be a gross over-reach. We trust people to change their own break pads, I trust them to know if they can drive on painkillers.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (3 children)

    Mandatory testing or randomly pulling people over to test them would be a gross over-reach.

    that's... the standard in all of europe.

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  • [+] -20 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    I am here

    I take one tablet, if I need to

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    "Take opioids instead of non-psychoactive cannabinoids for pain" is a wild take my guy

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  • [+] -10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    There was an injection of tongue in cheek with the first comment as well, but that seemed to have missed most

    There’s a big difference between one Panadeine forte and the opioids you might be thinking of. Sometimes it’s just a paracetamol

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    ...paracetamol is not an opioid.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Correct

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    Codeine can still make people sleepy and sluggish. It's still an opioid that can lead to dependence and withdrawal. It still has negative GI side effects causing constipation. It's not a good idea for driving while under the influence. If this can help people in pain without side effect that can cause impairment, why not. Getting high off of cannabis can still be allowed.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    the first time i took Hydrocodone was after I had my wisdom teeth pulled. I slept a full 8 hours, got up, took my next dose, and then proceeded to pass out for ANOTHER full 8 hours. I put two and two together pretty quickly and just decided to deal with the pain.

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  • [+] -9 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    I’m not going to argue, really

    I take one if I have to drive and I’m in pain.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You don't need to argue. You just need to accept that every time you do that you put your life, and the lives of the people around you, in danger. And that's simply a fact.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago*

    Yeah look I think there might be a difference between one Panadeine forte and hard core opiates that have people nodding off.

    Certainly, it’s a lot better than vaping two caps before driving and nine times out of ten it’s just a paracetamol anyway

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My friend, in the UK you can literally buy Panadol both with and without codiene over the counter at a pharmacy

    They have said multiple times they use the without for the most part, which is just paracetamol (acetaminophen).

    The UK and elsewhere don't have the same problem with opiates as the US does.

    It's not an offense to drive on medications unless it impares you, in effect giving the police reason to stop you from driving if impaired by it and legal means to prosecute you if you cause harm due to the imparement.

    That also means I could drive whilst high from my cannabis prescription if there was no imparement.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    It's not an offense to drive on medications unless it impares you

    Its not that its no offense, you simply can't be prosecuted if no one knows about it. But that doesn't equal legal. If you get into an accident and anyone finds out that you took opioide, even just medical painkillers, you will be attributed most of the blame in court.

    That also means I could drive whilst high from my cannabis prescription if there was no imparement.

    A prescription only provides defense in court, not an immunity to prosecution. It still is in your responsibility to prove that you weren't impaired by your medication, which is nearly impossible. If your tolerance is high enough that your reaction time doesn't decrease, then its nearly useless either way.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    But if you have cannabis without the high, you could use that instead and be safer.

    I’d love to have the option as a medical marijuana user. Not as punishment for having pain, but for having more options.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah look, I don’t it’s a bad thing at all, I know this would benefit many people

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    Your parent comment resonated with me, I get that knee jerk reaction about punishing pain. But yeah I can begrudgingly admit that I would use this if it was available for driving and such.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Fortunately I don’t have really bad pain and the opiates I take if I need to are very mild.

    There’s a bit of cynicism in my comment, I’m in Australia so any excuse my governments can find to destroy enjoyment gained as an extra, they’ll do it.

    At the end of the day anything we can do with cannabis extracts that help people in any way id support, including this

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