cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/c/electricvehicles/p/2162853/usa-slate-s-new-electric-truck-will-cost-slightly-more-than-24950

Range is said to be 205 mi (330 km), higher than the original estimate. This price is for the basic truck. The SUV configuration is expected to be $5000 more.

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[–] 128 points 3 months ago (58 children)

As Canadian…

American company?, nope

Owned by Bezos?, hell nah

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  • [–] 62 points 3 months ago (25 children)

    Bezos was one investor, not the owner

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  • [–] 59 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (24 children)

    Slate raised at least $111 million in Series A financing, including an undisclosed amount from Bezos. Slate then raised $600 million in 2024 from Mark Walter, the controlling owner of the Los Angeles Dodgers and CEO of Guggenheim Partners, Jeff Bezos, and General Catalyst, a venture capital firm.[5] In mid-2026, the company said it had completed a $650m series C investment round, which took its total capital raised to $1.4bn.[6]

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    Bezos was seed money AND part of the owner conglomerate that raised all the capital the company started with in 2024. That is enough for me to avoid this like the plague as it will, certain as the sun is hot, be enshitified to the core

    If you do not believe me, here is an article explaining how this is all a big Amazon initiative

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/

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  • [–] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (23 children)

    I would truly not be surprised that this would be an attempt to take over there ev truck market, but manufacturers should have been paying attention. There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    While I'm sure they'll try to enshittify, the downside to that plan is that they need to make sure no one takes their place and they need to have something people want that they can enshittify. The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    I drove a small truck at one point. Think a late 90s Tacoma, Ranger, or something like that. I don't want an F250. I don't want a Ram 3500. I just want to be able to haul a bed full of bikes to the MTB trail and help my friends move a washing machine.

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Slate has a size comparison widget on their website. You can show it with the silhouette of a current full size pickup and a circa 1985 small pickup. It's almost exactly the same size as that generation.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    There’s a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    Absolutely correct. The American car makers keep on saying "we only want big trucks" but that is complete BS, there is plenty of demand for smaller trucks which is why they have lobbied the gov to all but ban any possible import

    The benefit of simplicity is that it makes it simpler for another manufacturer to pick up the slack.

    While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

    If the company is not for sale, then they would have the monopoly on small trucks and thus, freedom to enshitify

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    While this is true in theory, in practice it rarely shows up. If these trucks do deliver a good, simple experience at $25K, others would not be able to just copy it and catch up. It would be easier for any of the big guys to just buy the company.

    I agree, but without the complications of a combustion engine, it makes it a lot easier. You can buy ev conversion kits for around $15k, so there's also an "I'll make my own, with blackjack, and hookers" option.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    Ford is. The Maverick is selling like hotcakes (not the 60s coupe). And they have an electric small truck coming soon as well. There's also Tello.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (10 children)

    There's a huge market for small ass trucks, no one is catering to it

    That's incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

    Toyota is about to release one to compete with the Maverick, and Dodge has a small and a mid sized truck in the works.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

    Those are midsized. I would say Hyundai is the only one with the Santa Cruz, and that's not really a truck.

    Edit: I stand corrected, I had assumed the maverick was rwd/awd, not fwd/awd. I'm going to amend my statement and say the maverick is also not really a truck. I consider having the drive wheels under the payload to be an important aspect of a truck. Not that it really matters in the grand scheme of things.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (4 children)

    That’s incorrect. The Ford Maverick and Hyundai Santa Cruz exist and are very popular.

    And they are still inefficient monsters compared to what a real small truck should be:

    Ford Maverick (2022+):

    • Length: Approx. 199.7 inches (5.07 meters) almost 1.7 meters larger, 6 feet or so

    • Width: Approx. 72.6 inches (1.84 meters)

    • Height: Approx. 68.7 inches (1.75 meters)

    • Bed Length: 4.5 feet (approx. 54 inches / 1.37 meters) 45% LESS cargo space than a kei truck

    Typical Kei Truck (e.g., Suzuki Carry):

    • Length: Max legal limit is 3.4 meters (133.9 inches / 11.15 feet).

    • Width: Max legal limit is 1.48 meters (58.3 inches). Often around 1.4 meters.

    • Height: Varies, but typically around 1.9–2.0 meters (75–79 inches) including the cab/bed height, though the cargo bed side walls are very low (often ~1 meter total height from ground).

    • Bed Length: Typically around 2.0 meters (78 inches / 6.5 feet), which is actually longer than the Maverick's bed in some configurations relative to the vehicle length, though the total footprint is much smaller.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    You gotta add a normal US truck to your stats.

    The Santa Cruz and Maverick are 2-3.5ft shorter than a Ram 1500.

    I have a Santa Cruz, and it looks like a toy truck next to the normal ones. Especially next to duallies.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    oh yes most others are way bigger… but I was comparing the "small" trucks that are actually available in the USA to make the point they are not in the same level the real small trucks are

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  • [–] 12 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    For the life of me I don’t know why we don’t develop something like this in Canada. It’s so frustrating, we have the people, the manufacturing space, the materials, we could do this.

    Whenever something about Canada making vehicles gets brought up, all the nay sayers climb on immediately saying how it can’t be done. I’m sick and tired of them. Nothing worth doing comes easy, if left to these naysayers we’d all be still living in squalor.

    We need to move away from the U.S. entanglement, the American public can’t be trusted to elect a proper government.

    Building our own low cost, modest feature vehicles would be an excellent start. How many features of a car do people use for a normal commute to work, or such? I’d love a truck like the Slate, except it has to have 4 wheel drive ability. After having Hondas with all wheel drive, I’ll never go back to an older 2 wheel drive vehicle.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Before the current political chaos, you would have made a mint. A little ingenuity and affordable value, along with the worlds second biggest car market next door would have been huge

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

    I heard that Bezos left the company as an investor. I don't blame you for disliking anything American, but Slate Auto seems alright so far...

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago* (8 children)

    He was never "in it"; but he put up the seed money, then participated in the main round of fund raising and placed a ton of his people in the company. So even if his is not personally involved, he has all the strings he needs to pull it where he wants it to go (which, IMO, means Slate will be enshitified to the full the moment those little trucks start selling)

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/08/inside-the-ev-startup-secretly-backed-by-jeff-bezos/

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

    What I wonder is how exactly are they going to enshittify it? It's extremely barebones and modular in a way that anyone can design add-ons and accessories for it. I can see them doing subscriptions and the like for various add-ons but you can always just get the base model and get add-ons elsewhere.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    They can betray the customer in many different ways... I am not willing to pay $25K to find out

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Generally yes, but with a modular and simple-by-design vehicle... how though?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago*

    They could simply stop producing certain parts, sneak a specific custom piece somewhere, provide no diagrams or documentation for third parties to produce repairs. They could simply design parts that fail just after warranty. There is an app that goes with it, right there they have the chance to scan and sell your data, push ads to you, track your driving, etc.

    I don't know exactly but there are more ways they can enshitify a product than my imagination allows.

    You see, greedy people do not enshitify for sport, they do it for greed as enshitification means more money for them. So unless you are convinced Bezos put money here to help people and not make as much money as possible back, the only logical conclusion is that he wants to milk it as hard as possible, this is what he does.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's never going to be released. Zero prototypes and being pushed by a billionaire.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago*

    They've been promoting it recently and have several working prototypes that they've been driving influencers around in. There was one video with Marques Brownlee and they even let him drive it himself.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago

    At this point I think there's a high likelihood that production will start close to their plan of late this year. As the other commenter said, you can go watch multiple videos of test drives. Pre-orders opened yesterday. But what do I know?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (5 children)

    Sounds like it's your chance to pull an Edison (like the Canadian Edison semi trucks).

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