▲ 560 ▼ Men against bush (thelemmy.club) submitted 2 months ago by stenAanden@feddit.dk to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world 282 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) I'm not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) I’m not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful. None of the definitions I can find for blanket generalizations require deceit. It's simply a fallacy defined by inductive conclusions. You unintentionally and in good faith made a paradox under the misunderstanding that deceit was required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) You don't need to intend to be deceitful to be deceitful, just like you don't need to intend to kill someone to kill them. The world is not sweeping absolutes. Painting it as such always obscures some truth, this post is no different. Edit: I'm just wrong here, I was misusing deceitful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) think anyone that makes blanket generalizations That's a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response. Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then. Since she's talking about a specific subset of men, it's not a blanket generalization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off. I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 child) I’m not sure that I have, actually — blanket generalizations are inherently deceitful. None of the definitions I can find for blanket generalizations require deceit. It's simply a fallacy defined by inductive conclusions. You unintentionally and in good faith made a paradox under the misunderstanding that deceit was required. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) You don't need to intend to be deceitful to be deceitful, just like you don't need to intend to kill someone to kill them. The world is not sweeping absolutes. Painting it as such always obscures some truth, this post is no different. Edit: I'm just wrong here, I was misusing deceitful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) think anyone that makes blanket generalizations That's a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response. Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then. Since she's talking about a specific subset of men, it's not a blanket generalization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off. I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children) You don't need to intend to be deceitful to be deceitful, just like you don't need to intend to kill someone to kill them. The world is not sweeping absolutes. Painting it as such always obscures some truth, this post is no different. Edit: I'm just wrong here, I was misusing deceitful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) think anyone that makes blanket generalizations That's a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response. Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial. permalink fedilink source parent [–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then. Since she's talking about a specific subset of men, it's not a blanket generalization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off. I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 child) think anyone that makes blanket generalizations That's a sweeping absolute, but this conversation is obviously going nowhere, have a good one friend. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response. Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) Edit: that wasn't fair of me. Let me rethink this response. Edit2: I recognize the paradox here, I think I was using deceit incorrectly. I accept your responses, thanks for being cordial. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) It’s a good thing the person in the video specified she’s taking about men who have the audacity to judge women’s bodies and body hair publicly then. Since she's talking about a specific subset of men, it's not a blanket generalization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off. I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 child) Yeah that context is important, the title is enough to make me write the whole thing off. I understand why clickbait strategies are common, I am just not the common denominator that they're aimed at. Am I judging a book by its cover? Yes... but I'd also judge 'Notes on How to Skin a Baby' by its cover so... idk. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] velma@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago* (1 child) Comparing men that don't like women's natural bodies to murdering and skinning a baby sure is a choice you made. It's ok if your kneejerk reaction was to be defensive. It's also ok to re-examine the post and realize that just because you are a man doesn't mean they're talking about you. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 1 point 1 month ago (1 child) Holy, you need to stop responding to my messages. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago I would have upvoted that one twice if I could :) Sounds like a book they'd put on a shelf in Omega Mart. permalink fedilink source parent