▲ 353 ▼ World Cup tourists aren’t leaving tips — and restaurants are fighting back (nypost.com) submitted 2 months ago by stumu415@lemmy.zip to c/world@lemmy.world 627 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 355 points 2 months ago (95 children) restaurants are fighting back Unless it's by raising their prices by 15-20% and paying their employees a living wage, it ain't gonna work. Tipping is moronic. permalink fedilink source hideshow 98 child comments replies: [–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 100 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s essentially what they’re doing, but with a surcharge rather than just raising their menu because we love adding on tax and fees here in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) It’s a bad deal that only policy could really fix at this point. If you’re the only store with real menu prices then customers just get price shocked at what they’re actually going to be paying when they can go next door to another restaurant that doesn’t tell you the full price up front. Customers would be upset at a mid $18 burger, but are fine with a mid $16 burger + $2 tip. Imo, the problems stem from the forced rat race of no one having enough money excluding the rich. Prices being high wouldn’t matter if people got paid more, but cause we’re not getting paid more, the companies that target the general population just make everything into cheap knockoff crap to still turn the same or better profit margins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children) That's also a surefire way to piss everyone off! It's hilarious to see the extent that restaurants will go to keep the menu price low. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) I mean, that's basically what airlines did when they started charging $20 for checked baggage so they could get the price Expedia shows to be as low as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children) I think you mean cabin bag Fortunately the EU is revoking that Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply) [–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago They'll raise their prices and give the employees nothing, just wait and see. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago Correct, they should pay their workforce (surprise!). permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (92 replies)
[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 100 points 2 months ago (2 children) That’s essentially what they’re doing, but with a surcharge rather than just raising their menu because we love adding on tax and fees here in the US permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) It’s a bad deal that only policy could really fix at this point. If you’re the only store with real menu prices then customers just get price shocked at what they’re actually going to be paying when they can go next door to another restaurant that doesn’t tell you the full price up front. Customers would be upset at a mid $18 burger, but are fine with a mid $16 burger + $2 tip. Imo, the problems stem from the forced rat race of no one having enough money excluding the rich. Prices being high wouldn’t matter if people got paid more, but cause we’re not getting paid more, the companies that target the general population just make everything into cheap knockoff crap to still turn the same or better profit margins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) [–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children) That's also a surefire way to piss everyone off! It's hilarious to see the extent that restaurants will go to keep the menu price low. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) I mean, that's basically what airlines did when they started charging $20 for checked baggage so they could get the price Expedia shows to be as low as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children) I think you mean cabin bag Fortunately the EU is revoking that Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] frostedtrailblazer@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 child) It’s a bad deal that only policy could really fix at this point. If you’re the only store with real menu prices then customers just get price shocked at what they’re actually going to be paying when they can go next door to another restaurant that doesn’t tell you the full price up front. Customers would be upset at a mid $18 burger, but are fine with a mid $16 burger + $2 tip. Imo, the problems stem from the forced rat race of no one having enough money excluding the rich. Prices being high wouldn’t matter if people got paid more, but cause we’re not getting paid more, the companies that target the general population just make everything into cheap knockoff crap to still turn the same or better profit margins. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children) That's also a surefire way to piss everyone off! It's hilarious to see the extent that restaurants will go to keep the menu price low. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) I mean, that's basically what airlines did when they started charging $20 for checked baggage so they could get the price Expedia shows to be as low as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children) I think you mean cabin bag Fortunately the EU is revoking that Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply) load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child) I mean, that's basically what airlines did when they started charging $20 for checked baggage so they could get the price Expedia shows to be as low as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children) I think you mean cabin bag Fortunately the EU is revoking that Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children) I think you mean cabin bag Fortunately the EU is revoking that Base price needs to be with a cabin bag + personal item. Then they can make a discount if one decides not to take the cabin bag but at least the comparison includes it from the start permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child) As an American I've never heard the term cabin bag before. But I'm sure they'll find a way to charge me extra for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cynar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago European budget airlines split it in 3. Checked luggage (in the hold), Cabin bag (in the overhead locker) and personal bag (under the seat, with your legs). Everything other than personal is charged for. They also make it difficult it just get the bag, not a whole package. It's gotten to the point it's pissed off the EU and they are cracking down on it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago (1 child) No, they mean checked baggage. By charging for that, budget airlines have been able to almost entirely do away with having check-in desks, and have greatly reduced the handling fees they pay. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment load more comments (1 reply)
[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago They'll raise their prices and give the employees nothing, just wait and see. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago Correct, they should pay their workforce (surprise!). permalink fedilink source parent