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[–] sanitation@lemmy.today [S] 5 points 3 months ago (4 children)

They won't ever break even. Chinese models are already comparable

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago* (3 children)

No they're not.

The best Chinese models are good, but they're resoundingly outclassed by the likes of Claude.

And that's not to mention the Chinese models are trained off the American models, i.e. they can't exist without the American ones being developed first.

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[–] sanitation@lemmy.today [S] 0 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

They don't train off American models, that's just their PR narrative to explain losing the race to a country without latest hardware

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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 months ago

They've literally been caught using distillation training off the American models. They undoubtedly do. Even the more efficient American models do.

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[–] sanitation@lemmy.today [S] 0 points 2 months ago

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-DVxMLFhi3o Glm 5.2 is almost the same as fable, difference is immaterial.

I use deepseek v4 pro daily and it's fine for most tasks and so cheap that I stick those deepseek api keys into most of my applications.

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