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[-] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 3 days ago

By making products less artistic and more designed-by-committee, they were able to make products that are just barely purchase-worthy to hundreds of millions of players, rather than products that merely millions truly love. It doesn't surprise me, this is exactly what Hollywood figured out long ago. Games industry sure is maturing alright...

[-] esc@piefed.social 34 points 3 days ago

That's a weird take, videogames are rarely pure art, they require to be designed-by-committee, unles the artist can do everything. Significant part of work is purely mechanical and requires as little as possible artistry or people would hate it. Most people play games because they are engaging and fun not because of some artistic vision.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

This is a bizzarro world interpretation of what's been happening with Capcom since Resident Evil 7.

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Welcome to games@lemmy.world! Here are your torch and pitch fork. Now go and join the angry mob! What are you waiting for?

Jokes aside it is a really bizarre and twisted way to read the situation but that‘s a pattern with this community. I know these things are kind of subjective but you will see the most confidently wrong takes here gather huge support from people who haven‘t even played the games so as long as they can „stick it to the big guys“. Whatever that means at any given time.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

When you make a reddit clone as a reddit alternative, inevitably you get redditors.

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 12 points 3 days ago

Yeah, they are shifting to a corporate checklist style form of development instead of paying talented (quirked up creators) to make masterpieces that stand the test of time. It will dilute the power of the medium, make more boring games that don't feel too different from others in a series. I think an auteur-driven games are actually some of the better ones, particularly when that person has the freedom to shape the whole final product. I feel like Square Enix is going to be dropping more boring releases in the coming years, the kind that don't really generate a lot of buzz for a long time...Shame, but they are choosing this path for themselves.

[-] Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 days ago

Same path all media/entertainment/content is following these days. Tv, movies, music, Broadway, you name it.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it's a regular cycle within the entertainment industries, after enough bombs eventually suits have the smart idea of spending less $ to make more projects.

then one does great which they milk endlessly, then some suit has the great idea of trying to make everything the next big thing

repeat

there's always great stuff dropping, generally more turds than great stuff. just got to filter what you consume

[-] LostWanderer@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

I've always been filtering my media, because I know that there are gems that will be released despite the current state of the many creative industries right now. Yeah, brain dead suits are going to do as they always do...Never learning, but at least the indie scene can provide us more gems than the corporate scene.

[-] caseofthematts@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think for this move to make sense, you need to understand how much Kenji Inafune set Capcom back with his MegaMan decisions before his departure. I'm sure this was a big aspect of their different approach to game making.

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

I get where you're coming from, but the most recent RE game is fucking fantastic. So something about what they're doing is working

[-] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah this and the other rebuttals people posted are all good points. I was exaggerating too much

[-] Wimopy@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

See, this would resonate more of the recent Resident Evils and Monster Hunters weren't, as they seemed to be, also loved by old fans.

I'm specifically a Monster Hunter fan since Tri, and I think World, Rise, and Wilds have all been fantastic entries that took the DNA of the franchise and allowed it to evolve. World and Wilds have moved the franchise to finally being able to show it takes place in a real living, breathing world. To me that shows the artistic vision is very much there.

I'm not saying the games are perfect (especially on launch) or there aren't changes people (including myself) will disagree with, but there's no way I'd call them "barely purchase-worthy". Especially not because of artistic constraints (and I'm very much including game design in that).

[-] zikzak025@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I thought Wilds was regarded as substantially worse than World. Its ratings seem to indicate as much, at least, and Steam player counts still show World as the more actively played.

So seems to me like they made one good game and then a cash grab retread of the same formula.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 days ago

Because Wilds only launched with 29 large monsters and no g/master rank, while World Iceborne is a much more complete experience, with 71 large monsters(including subspecies). Ascendance launch could bring all the player back.

As of now there's almost equal amount of player in both game.

[-] Wimopy@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago

That, and it had significant performance issues for many people, along with some texture glitches. That's why I added that little parenthetical bit about the games not being perfect on launch. World was a big shift and also had some launch issues.

I would say that's not down to some "design by committee" art/design choice though. I'd very much agree with issues around Capcom's monetisation (character edit vouchers, a million cosmetic packs) and their launch model (e.g.: wait another year and have all those title updates already in). But I disagree with them being pure cash grabs that are somehow artistically stunted by some corporate process to some major degree.

Maybe they should bring back the mandatory "gather 20 mushrooms" quest though for completeness I guess.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I actually doesn't have much technical issue when World launch on PC, and i'm using 8 years old PC back then. Iceborne launch update makes the game unplayable though. I haven't start Wilds, still busying myself with Rise, and honestly i can't see myself saying the old game were "better", the QOL alone made it significantly better compared to what come before, even though i still love 4U so much. The story of the new one is a step back from 4U though.

Maybe they should bring back the mandatory "gather 20 mushrooms" quest though for completeness I guess.

Mandatory egg quest featuring Rathalos and Velociprey.

[-] mellowistheyellow@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

MH Wilds is garbage beyond belief and clearly shows a decline in quality of their franchise. The older MH games are so much better and its not even close

[-] Wimopy@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago

Well that's a pretty extreme statement. I'll admit World and Wilds are obviously different from the older games in some ways, but how is Wilds "garbage beyond belief"?

I'm genuinely curious, because so far I've seen quite a few people here claim it is somehow awful, but no one says why. Most of the negative reviews I've seen before have been about performance. I've also seen a few mention the game being too easy, but the end game has been spicy enough after they released some new monsters. I could see complaints about content initially, but it's not like Tri had many large monsters on release either in comparison, it's always the expansion that brings in a bunch more.

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