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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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The Human Ecology of Overshoot: Why a Major ‘Population Correction’ Is Inevitable (www.mdpi.com)

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I read the first part of this when it was posted, didn't get around to reading the rest of it until now. I had made some little mental notes about places where it seemed to me like it over-simplified things or otherwise made small mistakes. I wondered if people would use those to dismiss the whole thing as nonsense. As it turns out, the only top-level responses here ignored any and all merits and flaws of the paper itself and instead choose to argue against a straw man they've named Malthus. Can't say I'm too surprised really, but still it's a little disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

MDPI isn't a great journal by any means and unfortunately I don't have a lot of time and energy these days to hunt for more and better ones. Quality of discussion in the community is also lacking. Not sure this can be fixed since overall engagement levels are dropping.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It seems like engagement levels are dropping all over the world. Let us hope that a sufficient fraction of the people dropping out of all visible kinds of civic and social engagement are turning on and tuning in to something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it represents people being fed up with both institutions in the real world and the decline of the quality of the internet since the last couple of decades. As for them tuning in to something else, I have seen much more interest in DIY, hard skills, personal projects and such of late, but nothing societal beyond that which would really bring people together. I think that's the best we can hope for at this time -- at least people learning useful skills or not sacrificing their whole lives to corporate ambition is a plus.