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It's the Imperium of MAN not the Imperium of THEY. (hexbear.net)
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[–] 106 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (16 children)

hypersus IT'S AN ALLEGORY FOR FASCISM
hypersus IT'S LITERALLY WORD-OF-GOD AN ALLEGORY FOR FASCISM
hypersus IT COULDN'T BE ANY MORE CLEAR-CUT
hypersus YOU CAN LITERALLY GOOGLE THE PHRASE "WHAT IS WARHAMMER AN ALLEGORY FOR" AND YOU WILL GET THAT AS A FRONT-PAGE RESULT

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  • [–] 51 points 3 years ago

    I know basically nothing about Warhammer, so I typed it into image search to see if it was super obvious and this was on the first page of results.

    I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's probably not a subtle allegory lol.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 years ago* (8 children)

    But see Krieg Imperial Guard have gas masks and I like gas masks and you know the swastika is really just religious imagery and well you know war is brutal so you really have to just do whatever you can against the fake plastic armies of Chaos and space elves and undead robots and green men and those weird things that spit acid at you so actually YOU'RE the fascist for even bringing it up to begin with!!!!!

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    No you don't understand Krieg is inspired by a combination of all the forces from WWI which is why it's okay for someone to paint theirs like the afrika korps and add swastika transfers. pronounjak

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Oh God that reminded of some chud that was trying to argue that his afrika korp "inspired" imperial guard army (complete with custom afrika korp emblems but with the swastika replaced with an imperial aquilla) wasn't fascist and didn't make him a fascist. Spoiler: the rest of his account was wheraboo-level Nazi tank worship including pictures of a whole-ass shrine to them he made complete with anime girl nazi officers

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Yep, guard players are mostly chuds. GW should nuke every guard subfaction but valhallans and then make them communist rebels.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Yep, guard players are mostly chuds.

    yea

    I still won't give up my guard army, but honestly 40k in general has too many chuds. Gone are the days of it being satirical and people understanding that the clearly theocratic fascist imperium aren't The Good Guys™. Now a days GW hides behind the shield of "it's satire guys, don't be fascist!!1!1!" while writing the hundredth book about how it's actually cool and good for a ubermensch superhuman dictator to slaughter billions in the name of some fictional past glory days

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I know. Some pig lives matter themed ultramarines would be a funny bit of satire to me. You've already got the blue and the skulls and the fascist oppression. However, warhammer fans would see it as unironically supporting fascist super cops. So I'd never paint it because warhammer is the wrong fandom to do it in. Same with trans masc space marines. Getting juiced up on super testosterone is something you can do a lot of gender themes with, but warhammer is too fascist to do it right.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    I think I've seen blue lives matter themed space marines before, so you're unfortunately late to that party. Satire is truly dead

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    "these fascists are just like cops" by someone who hates both versus "these fascists are just like cops" by someone who loves both. Don't want to be mistaken for these second, but wh hasn't been satire since like the first edition.

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  • [–] 32 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Warhammer Fantasy is different from Warhammer 40k, but it's pretty much just a piss take on how horrific and shitty sword and sorcery fantasy worlds really are, cutting away all the anachronistic romance and replacing it with horror and filth. It's basically satirizing fantasy monarchist apologia and romanticism in the same way 40K directs that towards fashy sci-fi.

    Neither setting does a particularly good job with the satire though, imo, to the point that I'd almost say 40K is more "what if Judge Dredd went back into space and we took this to a whole new level of silly? Like we could do a Judge Dredd/Dune crossover with like elves and shit, lmao," than it is even the sort of tepid and still-brainwormed satire that Judge Dredd was.

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  • [–] 25 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    yeah top result on google is "it's an allegory for germany" (the empire)

    a little further down I found this: https://br.ifunny.co/video/warhammer-is-an-allegory-it-s-a-commentary-on-fascism-yd0RLTL29

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  • [–] 22 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Might be some confusion there. In warhammer fantasy, the empire is very much supposed to be the HRE: a bunch of squabbling states that are only nominally subservient to the central authority of the emperor. The Imperium of Man in 40k on the other hand is just fascism. Love to have two settings that use similar names, definitely not confusing, thank u james workshop.

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