When was the last time a system remotely this bad was actually redeemed slowly? The Mongols were defeated by disease, storms, and violence; the Nazis were defeated by extreme violence; the Japanese Empire was defeated by extreme violence; the French monarchy and Napoleon were defeated by extreme violence; the Russian monarchy was defeated by extreme violence.

Things get worse before they get better with a revolution, but they can get better. That isn't to say that we should decline to reduce harm inside the current system, but it seems naive to expect the current system to stop being terrible. Harm reduction is a temporary measure.

Why would it automatically be "horrible beyond what you could imagine"? I have watched the US murder thousands of people through illegal wars, poison the entire planet, and now for years the US has supported an open genocide in Gaza, not to mention previous genocidal regimes propped up by the US.

The things I have seen are already literally more horrible than I could have imagined. I wouldn't imagine they would send a Tomahawk missile into a crowded elementary school, and especially wouldn't imagine they would hit it two more times, ensuring nearly every young girl in a small town was killed. I wouldn't have imagined these things years ago except maybe from a country like Nazi Germany. But I've seen it, and there is ample evidence, and we know that there is more that they do in the shadows that we might never know. Tell me why we shouldn't stop it as quickly as possible? What would you say to the parents of these children? People have been pushing for change slowly and steadily for the entire history of the US and we are still a bloodthirsty, heartless monster, imprisoning more people than have ever been held in history.

"Tear it all down" is for weak minded imbeciles who get frustrated trying to confront issues and think of practical resolutions.

I sort of agree with you but the chance for that is over. I can't come up with a single way to change anything slowly at this point. We've had 46 years of pillaging the working class and now we're about to get nuked by an illegal IPO during the biggest bubble we've ever seen. Please help me understand how we'll have the option to change anything once Palantir rolls out the robot dogs next year.

I think more what I meant was, I prefer none of this have happened, but when trump and his fellow cult members choose to do something insane, I'm pretty happy to see the rest of the world cutting us out of their decision making so this insanity is seen as unacceptable.

Lmao, this reads like a CIA psyop. Death to the American experiment. You guys can try again with a new constitution, my advice is to leave the slavery out this time.