I know I'm not the only one who feels like I'm getting visually assaulted everytime I drive at night. It was bad 10 years ago but now, it seems like headlight manufacturers have a deal with insurance companies and optometrists to make the lights as bright as possible. Is this ever going to stop or is there some kind of race in the headlight industry to see who can reproduce the power of the sun first?

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[–] 31 points 4 months ago (29 children)

Its (like many things) mostly the us's fault. A slide away from rules into vibe based everything.

I remember a long time ago when I was first getting my license you had to pass a headlight test where you parked in a spot and there where painted lines on a wall for both high and low beams. It was how you adjusted your lights and was common in Canada. Now no one even knows what I am talking about. The rules are still there but no one enforces them and most forgot they can even adjust their lights (not sure new cars and trucks can be anymore).

Manufacturers in North America are now putting their lights so high up on vehicles and use such bright piercing lights on everything that night driving has become a nightmare. The answer to getting blinded is now to out blind others, its madness.

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  • [–] [S] 21 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I love that people are asking me if I have some kind of visual deficiency when the phenomenon of blinding lights is so common that it's in the simpsons from 27 years ago lol

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  • [–] 9 points 4 months ago

    Its gotten to a point that seems impossible, just full clown world. Its gotten to the point that my favorite car to drive at night is my Fiero, because I am so low I am below most of the blinding lights.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (24 children)

    It's also common with European cars, which are much lower and yet have increasingly bright (and bluer?) lights.

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  • [–] 8 points 4 months ago (23 children)

    The brightness is an issue, but the placement and angle are the bigger problem. Its the slippery slope of following american trends. Years ago Mercedes Benz (I think) put out a car that used IR light and a heads up screen (no visible headlights, just running lights) showing the driver the night landscape without needing to blind everyone. It was banned in the states, no real reason why but the idea went dead.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    It was banned in the states

    UV scare. They had to use UV lights to make it work. But they weren't on the same wavelength as say a tanning bed but people made a noise about it anyways.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    No IR not UV. Not the same wavelength UV and IR are on the opposite sides of the visual spectrum.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    This is so cool…I wish this would have taken off. I had to find some videos to see what you were talking about in action so I’m sharing here:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/pxUod6Sx5w8

    https://youtube.com/shorts/sg0pG0V3JIE

    This third one in rain is wild:

    https://youtube.com/shorts/YXQYoYc6E7c

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (16 children)

    Was it banned in other countries too, or is there some other reason it isn't used?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (13 children)

    Not sure, but the tech is old and tested (almost all cold war era things used IR lights). The issue is I think they can sell the super terrible bright lights as "safety" features. And a lot of consumer trends are american based and just forced on the world.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (12 children)

    A German auto company isn't going to pull a safety feature from the EU, South American, and Asian markets just because it's banned in the US.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (11 children)

    No but they will not also pursue one that is not allowed in the us market as hard. But then again times are a changin.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (10 children)

    I think you're over estimating the amount of influence the US auto market has had.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (9 children)

    *had

    And it was eminence. But maybe with their fall we can get cool IR cars again.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (8 children)

    Are you correcting my post or yours? I was speaking in the past tense.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (7 children)

    Oh no, just agreeing on the tense. Hope that it stays that way.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (6 children)

    I'm still not sure we're in agreement, but maybe we are? I'm saying the US auto market has never had enough influence to block a cost-effective safety feature from appearing on foreign markets. Another person pointed out that the IR HUD was used on a luxury car and the high cost probably prevented its widespread use.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (5 children)

    It did appear, but never went main stream. The cost was high, but like projector bulbs if mainstream produced the cost would come down.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Of course the cost would come down (slightly) if a new tech goes mainstream, but you don't think an IR HUD could become as cheap as regular headlights, do you?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (3 children)

    I do, they are not really much different from what is put in cars today. HUD? We put screens on everything, IR? its just a bulb type. IR cameras? Its a camera.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (2 children)

    There's a lot more that goes into to than you think. A camera and HUD will never be as cheap as a bulb and a reflector.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    There is alot more that goes into those projector and LED headlights then you think then. They have not been a bulb and reflector only in 30 years or so. If they where still just a bulb and reflector we would not all be talking about having to face the fucking sun itself everytime we drive at night.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    That's not quite right. Projectors make headlights less blinding. It would be worse if we still used basic reflectors. Also, not all vehicles use expensive LED headlights.

    Back to your original argument: you aren't saying you think an IR HUD would be less complicated than a cheap halogen bulb in a projector, are you? Because that would be rediculous.

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