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[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 21 hours ago

In countries with solidary health insurance expenses to cover unnecessary, tobacco related cancers are paid by the whole population.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Dead wrong.
The whole population benefits from what smokers pay.
From a study in NL it shows that they generate far more than what it costs in healthcare.
And it also said should the small percentage of smokers suddenly quit and live longer, the loss of income for the state and the extra cost of them living longer and needing more care would be unsustainable.

And if you want to be selfish and not have solidarity then let's start about the much bigger cost of the SELF-INFLICTED diabetic epidemic.
They require an avg of 28 years of aid.
And almost no country wants to tackle that because of their opportunistic politicians.
Who cares about antagonizing a small percentage that smokes.
But the many sugar addicts poisoning themselves are too important for their precious votes to touch.
And those same hypocrite politicians can be seen regularly with a glass of alcohol (hard drugs) in their hand.
And as an edit, I don't want to pay for your skin cancer treatment also, should've stayed out of the sun.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

diabetic epidemic. ….And almost no country wants to tackle

Almost every country has nutrition regulations and makes some effort to encourage better nutrition. It’s not enough and is too easily hijacked by industry but there is some level of effort

  • not diabetic, but consider an example like trans fats being mostly banned from food chains
[-] 5gruel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

wait how does that add up? why and how would smokers contribute more?

your second argument about healthy people living longer and therefore costing more (BC of receiving more pension is the argument I guess?) would apply to any treatment, including obesity, right?

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

I’ve read that too - elderly and end of life care is expensive, and smokers are more likely to die early before running up as much healthcare costs as a healthy person. They may be sicker, cost more in healthcare while sick, but shorter overall life resulting in smaller overall healthcare costs

Assuming that’s true, and I don’t remember if it was a reputable source, on purely financial terms for healthcare, smoking is “good”

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 33 points 20 hours ago

That happens in the US too. We just also pay CEO salaries and shareholder disbursements.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 10 points 12 hours ago
[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago

And Iran. Think of how much healthcare we’re saving them by helping school kids never needs care again. /s, dark /s

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 9 points 16 hours ago

We're such a generous nation ❤️

/s

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Because every throat and lung cancer is caused by tobacco, we should make everyone who gets them go bankrupt and die? I'm really confused dude. What cancers are necessary.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 hours ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago

Oh, so my initial assumption was correct, it's whichever ones you personally feel like blaming the patient for getting. I take it the worst thing that's ever happens to you is stubbing your toe and you're a trust attorney?

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 hours ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, my nephew had cancer when he was six months. Anyone who is rooting for cancer deserves to die of it.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Do you mind showing me where I was rooting for cancer?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

You're just saying that treating tobacco-related cancer is paid for by the whole population. That's it folks! If anyone is inferring something from that, well, that's clearly on them.

[-] kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 45 minutes ago

Yeah, like if somebody inferred that somebody smoking and getting cancer isn't hurting just themselves, but indirectly also the entire population, especially people with chronic diseases. No way they would imply it's in everyone's interests to stop smoking across the entire population, they're only saying things.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 7 hours ago

You're so dumb it's funny.

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