Yeah I mean both those threads are very embarrassing, there are users in there trying to warn people though they just aren’t at the top. One user brought up his racist knife threats, someone else is downplaying it. Another is warning of getting consumed in succ dem electoralism, the normal harm reduction arguments are trotted out.

It is funny that the two OPs are mods/former mods. Not sure why there is such a high rate of electoralism brain among the mods here, it’s totally incongruous with the user base.