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It was still slavery
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In that case, I can cite many examples of literal slavery that are not effective slavery. Including examples of race-based chattel slavery in the USA.
I'm sure the revelation that they're not effectively enslaved would have heartened many of those folk.
Not to mention that consumer purchases are far from the majority or even the plurality of expenses of most working-class folk in the modern USA. But I suppose that would require a greater understanding of modern economic conditions than the one you currently hold.
In company towns, there was no effective choice at where to spend one's money. Furthermore, company towns had deeply restrictive and abusive contracts that amounted to debt slavery; and on top of that, often paid in company script that could not be used anywhere else. When we describe historical company towns as effective slavery, it's not because of fucking regional horizontal integration.
Funny enough, American history in particular is far from my fields of interest, but I suppose that would require having some actual familiarity with me instead of a weak attempt at an insult, lmao.
Okay. Fine. Can’t we all just admit that we all work at Walmart and that it is more than a little bit fucked up. There, I said it.
Sure, it's fucked up. But slavery isn't "when your income disappears into your employers' pockets."
Do you speak English? That’s one way people who speak English use the word slavery.
So every person in the Soviet Union was a slave?
That’s quite a strawman
Or maybe a red herring I get them all mixed up
I’m down for beating down the strawman if you have a pitchfork I can borrow
That's the literal fucking implication of the definition YOU offered.
Ummmm… no
The implication is such a distraction to the topic to make me laugh.
Wage slavery is a thing. It’s a word. People know what it means. It’s a simple concept. It’s well known and used often. It’s in the dictionary. Google Translate can translate it into different languages and people will understand what it means.
If you don’t know what it means, you’re one of the few
You offered a definition of slavery that you, presumably, meant to be coherent and meaningful.
I pointed out that the definition was so broad as to be incoherent.
I'm sorry that you don't have enough intellectual honesty to even own up to your own points even when they're fucking written down for everyone to see. I hope you get better - but I know cretins like you rarely do.
Again, you fail to underatand what "effectively" means.
Why are you so hellbent on defending modern "slavery"!?
Ohhhh noooo, someone had it worse in the past, so that means the present cannot be bad or on a backwards slide!
Again, you are truly pathetic sometimes, Pug.
I'm sure those people desperate for a better life will be totally relieved by your news that they're not literally slaves.
Your empathy is broken.
... fucking what.
That's not nearly what I said, but I guess literacy isn't your strong point, considering this conversation.
Nor are they effectively slaves.
Conditions can be shitty without being slavery, which is a term with an actual definition.
Because I... think slavery has a meaning?
Sorry that you don't think words have meanings. I hope you get better.
What.
What.
... supporting Israel is, apparently, having supported the complete abolition of aid to Israel for more than a decade-and-a-half at this point.
Way to completely and utterly demonstrate how you are absolute trash at learning from history...
You know a lot about it, but your knowledge is merely academic. You are an absolute failure at understanding history.
Much like how you are repeatedly offended at people being completely unwilling to support Israel. You do not understand the human cost of what you talk about.
Again; Pathetic.