“From 1931 to 1934 we had great harvests. The weather conditions were great. However, all the grain was taken from us. People searched the fields for mice burrows hoping to find measly amounts of grain stored by mice…”
(as remembered by Mykola Karlosh)
“I’m asking for your permission to advance me any amount of grain. I’m completely sick. I don’t have any food. I’ve started to swell up and I can hardly move my feet. Please don’t refuse me or it will be too late.”
(From a petition to the authorities by P. Lube)
This was the first instance of a peacetime genocide in history. It took the extraordinary form of an artificial famine deliberately created by the ruling powers. This savage combination of words for the designation of a crime — “an artificial, deliberately planned famine” — is still incredible to many people throughout the world, but indicates the uniqueness of the tragedy of 1933, which is unparalleled, for a time of peace, in the number of victims it claimed.
- Wasyl Hryshko, survivor of the Holodomor. Hryshko, Wasyl. The Ukrainian Holocaust of 1933. Toronto: Bahriany Foundation, Suzhero, Dobrus, 1983, 107
Seems like that nationalist conflicts with eyewitness accounts
You understand they are an eyewitness too right?
Yes but it's three against one
☝️🤓 there are three total sources on this subject
There's more I can show you if you want
You can just copy paste all of Harvest of Sorrow if you want but it isn't going to change my perspective on these events.
deeply unserious
Often times in history some nutjobs tend to lie
yeah and sometimes idiots like you believe them
Usually what most people say is the correct version
For example if we found some clay tablets talking about a city, but other tablets from the same time have no mention of the city we can deduct that the city likely never existed.
This isn't really true. Most people can be wrong, culture and ideas are highly dependent on the views of the ruling class of a given society.
lmao this is the weakest debate pervert shit ever. get better material, loser
Crazy leaps of logic I hope you're not a historian neither a programmer, even IA has better logic than that.
Sorry typo. One clay tablet talks about the city not multiple