“From 1931 to 1934 we had great harvests. The weather conditions were great. However, all the grain was taken from us. People searched the fields for mice burrows hoping to find measly amounts of grain stored by mice…”
(as remembered by Mykola Karlosh)
“I’m asking for your permission to advance me any amount of grain. I’m completely sick. I don’t have any food. I’ve started to swell up and I can hardly move my feet. Please don’t refuse me or it will be too late.”
(From a petition to the authorities by P. Lube)
This was the first instance of a peacetime genocide in history. It took the extraordinary form of an artificial famine deliberately created by the ruling powers. This savage combination of words for the designation of a crime — “an artificial, deliberately planned famine” — is still incredible to many people throughout the world, but indicates the uniqueness of the tragedy of 1933, which is unparalleled, for a time of peace, in the number of victims it claimed.
- Wasyl Hryshko, survivor of the Holodomor. Hryshko, Wasyl. The Ukrainian Holocaust of 1933. Toronto: Bahriany Foundation, Suzhero, Dobrus, 1983, 107
'The Holodomor' is a Neonazi propaganda buzzword invented in the 80s to equivocate between the USSR and the Third Reich, specifically chosen to imply similarity to the Holocaust which in turn is a form of Holocaust minimization. The origin of the 'intentional famine' myth was literally Joseph fucking Goebbels, and was spread by the media empire of avowed US fascist media tyrant William Randolph Hearst.
Here's what a die-hard Ukrainian nationalist had to say about the famine of 1932:
The USSR did everything it could to alleviate the famine - which stretched beyond Ukraine both further into the USSR and out beyond its borders, shattering the notion it could possibly have been targeted - and once it was brought under control, no famine ever affected the USSR again in peacetime.
Even Russia admitted it was man made
Statement by the Delegation of the Russian Federation: Russia’s position on the Holodomor issue remains unchanged. Millions of citizens of many different nationalities have fallen victim to truly tragic events of 1932-1933 and, accordingly, it would be unfair to talk about the destruction of only ethnically Ukrainian citizens. The famine in the USSR in the 1930s was a consequence of the Soviet policy, the collectivization of agriculture, and the “dekulakization” of the peasantry that was carried out during that period.
Russia is not the Soviet Union. First of all Russia is not a socialist or communist country.
Russia was the main republic in the ussr
Russian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic (RSFSR) was a different entity comprised of totally different interests than the present Russian Federation (RF). The elements who formed the RF destroyed the RSFSR and dismembered the USSR in the 1990s, plundering them to lay the foundations of the present Russian oligarchy's wealth and power. Present-day Russia is the sworn enemy of the Soviets who were in charge at the time of the famine, and not a reliable source.
The parasite that killed and devoured the Soviet Union xenomorph-style is repeating anticommunist propaganda? I wonder why that could be.
Seems like that nationalist conflicts with eyewitness accounts
You understand they are an eyewitness too right?
Yes but it's three against one
☝️🤓 there are three total sources on this subject
There's more I can show you if you want
You can just copy paste all of Harvest of Sorrow if you want but it isn't going to change my perspective on these events.
deeply unserious
Often times in history some nutjobs tend to lie
yeah and sometimes idiots like you believe them
Usually what most people say is the correct version
For example if we found some clay tablets talking about a city, but other tablets from the same time have no mention of the city we can deduct that the city likely never existed.
This isn't really true. Most people can be wrong, culture and ideas are highly dependent on the views of the ruling class of a given society.
lmao this is the weakest debate pervert shit ever. get better material, loser
Crazy leaps of logic I hope you're not a historian neither a programmer, even IA has better logic than that.
Sorry typo. One clay tablet talks about the city not multiple