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Israel abducts sister of Irish president
(www.thecanary.co)
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But it's OK because Israel is a democracy. /s
It's funny how rare this argument has become, a few years ago politicians used it all the time, as if it was some kind of free pass to genocide, war crimes and discrimination.
Just remember that "But it's a democracy", is not an argument for anything. USA is also a democracy, but that does not in any way justify their attacks on Iran either, or their blockade of Cuba, or all the dozens of other things they are doing that are against international law.
It's also good to remember that not only is this not an argument for anything, but also the precondition of being a democracy is simply not met for pissrael. You cannot do apartheid and legitimately call yourself a democracy. There's a couple million people within the dominion that pissrael rules over who simply cannot vote for the bodies that govern them. That's not a democracy.
I absolutely agree on that. Weird I never thought about it when the claims were made.
Nothing can justify genocide or murdering random people at sea. Ever. It doesn't matter who is doing it. The breaking of international law needs to have consequences.
It seems like a lot of people today have a hard time to not justify atrocities.
Exactly.
me she'll be deported unharmed
i notice they believe the rape of the other protester but not oct 7
misogynize the global intefada
Exactly Citizen! Good to see that the Raytheon CorrectThink ^(TM)^ rays have been beneficial! Looks like we don't need to increase the beam strength after all.
Is it though?
Democrazy
american here: it is not a democracy. also, FUCK ISRAEL
It’s a plutocracy disguised as a democracy
It's a democracy where dollars are considered citizens and allowed to vote.
Where corporations are people and women are baby factories.
Kakistocracy but yeah.
Technokleptoplutokakistocracy
I mean yeah, not wrong.
Those are not mutually exclusive. It's both.
No one said it was mutually exclusive and technically "but yeah" is an agreement so what am I missing?
"but yeah" implies a correction to me.
USA claims to be a democracy.
It's a dysfunctional democracy. So it's absolutely not a good democracy.
I think the term is "contested democracy"
yeah its more like a democracy in process of facist takeover. Its a grey area.
A brown area.
It requires a broad definition of democracy to consider either of those democracies. The V-Dem Institute puts both in the second tier of "electoral democracy" behind the "true" democracies, termed "liberal democracy."
From Wikipedia, the electoral democracies are those that:
Both countries are also considered to be backsliding toward autocracy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Economist_Democracy_Index
Israel and USA are both flawed democracies placed at 30 and 34.
But they are still democracies.
Yes, by a broad definition. They can be considered democracies because elections, while not free and fair, are not directly rigged, opposition parties are allowed to contest them, and the press is partially free. Contrast this to a country like China or Russia, where elections are a sham, opposition is banned or controlled, and the press is tightly controlled by the government.
I will say though that both V-Dem and the Economist are being somewhat generous. Considering recent events in Hungary, one could argue both countries should really rank lower than Hungary.
I agree, and in Hungary Victor Orban had a lot of control of the media. That's a pretty big part of being a democracy, that the press (media) is free.
According to the scoring since 2006 the United States index has dropped by a whole 0.57
That seems highly suspect to me.
I'm not sure what you mean? It has been the trajectory led mostly by the Republicans for decades.
Gerrymandering, illegal surveillance by agencies and even the police, secret laws upheld in secret courts overseen by a tight group of political leaders that are used to silence the press. Sounds like a conspiracy, except Obama admitted it, and even called it a good balance! The Republican rigging of the supreme court.
But maybe you mean it has dropped more?
Because I think it has because of Trump, and I also think the score of 8.22 that places it as a full democracy is moronic, considering it's a 2 party system with fpp voting. And USA has the highest number of prisoners, and they are not allowed to vote.
Nixon actively made cannabis illegal to silence the peace movement. And it has been used since to also oppress minorities.
The score has been consistently way to high.