▲ 516 ▼ TIL that eating dirt was common in the U.S. South until the 80s. People ate a handful a day, often seasoned with vinegar and salt. (thelemmy.club) submitted 3 months ago* by Wudi@feddit.uk to c/til@lemmy.world 211 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://www.nytimes.com/1984/02/13/us/southern-practice-of-eating-dirt-shows-signs-of-waning.html
[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 63 points 3 months ago (5 children) Thanks for citing this, but it still doesn't explain why this custom has developed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] The_v@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 child) The most likely explanation is that kaolinite clay is known to reduce nausea and diarrhea. https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2022.893831/full permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children) I compost and a common practice is to throw a handful of your native soil into your pile when you start it, to inoculate it with local soil bacteria. Bacteria do most of the work in an active compost pile. I wonder if people were getting some kind of gut flora benefit from this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Depending on the composition of the soil it might also have antiparasitic properties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sydd@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or they could be beneficial parasites, like that episode of the space show. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) I wonder this exact thing, given that soil is a living organism full of beneficial bacteria and other organic materials. The food we eat consumes it, takes what it needs, and then we do the same. I find it also interesting that while the article claims this is a cultural thing vs. being done for heath benefits, I’d argue it became cultural because of a universal understanding of health benefits. Now I’m not saying this is some long lost concept that is the missing key to fix all our ills, however I can see how consuming soil was an integral part of maintaining gut health and boosting immunity way before we understood how those systems work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Yeah I don’t see an answer, but it is possible that it is chemical and not about flora, because I keep seeing “clay” mentioned specifically, instead of “soil.” I agree that just saying “it’s cultural” is not an explanation. Cultures are not entirely arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago (6 children) What rational reason is there for people to eat cereal for breakfast? Cereal was designed to prevent masturbation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago Cream of Wheat, not cream of meat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago I'd say it does a pretty good job. I hardly ever jack off while eating Cheerios in the morning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago There's always a reason, but it doesn't need to be entirely rational. Kellogg was a nut, but that's a different topic, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MML@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago Then why are they called Apple Jacks?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's why I rub out a fat one first and THEN eat the cereal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago That'll show kellogg permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah pour it in the trousers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's true for a lot of customs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Pretty much all customs are culturally transmitted - that’s kind of the definition. But they’re not necessarily totally arbitrary either - there is often some other information that can be added beyond “they have learned to do it.” permalink fedilink source parent [–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I can't speak for these specific people, but I know that eating clay can absorb toxins, like the kinds of poisons plants make to stop you eating them. There's also potentially mineral supplementation and introduction of beneficial bacteria. But it's not very safe to eat dirt in modern times because we've poisoned a lot of the soil with various substances. You can buy edible dirt which is known to be safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You can buy edible dirt which is known to be safe. Wait, what? permalink fedilink source parent [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Oh I agree. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_v@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago (1 child) The most likely explanation is that kaolinite clay is known to reduce nausea and diarrhea. https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/public-health/articles/10.3389/fpubh.2022.893831/full permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children) I compost and a common practice is to throw a handful of your native soil into your pile when you start it, to inoculate it with local soil bacteria. Bacteria do most of the work in an active compost pile. I wonder if people were getting some kind of gut flora benefit from this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Depending on the composition of the soil it might also have antiparasitic properties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sydd@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or they could be beneficial parasites, like that episode of the space show. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) I wonder this exact thing, given that soil is a living organism full of beneficial bacteria and other organic materials. The food we eat consumes it, takes what it needs, and then we do the same. I find it also interesting that while the article claims this is a cultural thing vs. being done for heath benefits, I’d argue it became cultural because of a universal understanding of health benefits. Now I’m not saying this is some long lost concept that is the missing key to fix all our ills, however I can see how consuming soil was an integral part of maintaining gut health and boosting immunity way before we understood how those systems work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Yeah I don’t see an answer, but it is possible that it is chemical and not about flora, because I keep seeing “clay” mentioned specifically, instead of “soil.” I agree that just saying “it’s cultural” is not an explanation. Cultures are not entirely arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago (2 children) I compost and a common practice is to throw a handful of your native soil into your pile when you start it, to inoculate it with local soil bacteria. Bacteria do most of the work in an active compost pile. I wonder if people were getting some kind of gut flora benefit from this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Depending on the composition of the soil it might also have antiparasitic properties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sydd@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or they could be beneficial parasites, like that episode of the space show. permalink fedilink source parent [–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) I wonder this exact thing, given that soil is a living organism full of beneficial bacteria and other organic materials. The food we eat consumes it, takes what it needs, and then we do the same. I find it also interesting that while the article claims this is a cultural thing vs. being done for heath benefits, I’d argue it became cultural because of a universal understanding of health benefits. Now I’m not saying this is some long lost concept that is the missing key to fix all our ills, however I can see how consuming soil was an integral part of maintaining gut health and boosting immunity way before we understood how those systems work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Yeah I don’t see an answer, but it is possible that it is chemical and not about flora, because I keep seeing “clay” mentioned specifically, instead of “soil.” I agree that just saying “it’s cultural” is not an explanation. Cultures are not entirely arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) Depending on the composition of the soil it might also have antiparasitic properties. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sydd@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or they could be beneficial parasites, like that episode of the space show. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sydd@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Or they could be beneficial parasites, like that episode of the space show. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] notwhoyouthink@lemmy.zip 1 point 3 months ago (1 child) I wonder this exact thing, given that soil is a living organism full of beneficial bacteria and other organic materials. The food we eat consumes it, takes what it needs, and then we do the same. I find it also interesting that while the article claims this is a cultural thing vs. being done for heath benefits, I’d argue it became cultural because of a universal understanding of health benefits. Now I’m not saying this is some long lost concept that is the missing key to fix all our ills, however I can see how consuming soil was an integral part of maintaining gut health and boosting immunity way before we understood how those systems work. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Yeah I don’t see an answer, but it is possible that it is chemical and not about flora, because I keep seeing “clay” mentioned specifically, instead of “soil.” I agree that just saying “it’s cultural” is not an explanation. Cultures are not entirely arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago Yeah I don’t see an answer, but it is possible that it is chemical and not about flora, because I keep seeing “clay” mentioned specifically, instead of “soil.” I agree that just saying “it’s cultural” is not an explanation. Cultures are not entirely arbitrary. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 months ago (6 children) What rational reason is there for people to eat cereal for breakfast? Cereal was designed to prevent masturbation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago Cream of Wheat, not cream of meat. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago I'd say it does a pretty good job. I hardly ever jack off while eating Cheerios in the morning. permalink fedilink source parent [–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago There's always a reason, but it doesn't need to be entirely rational. Kellogg was a nut, but that's a different topic, no? permalink fedilink source parent [–] MML@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago Then why are they called Apple Jacks?! permalink fedilink source parent [–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's why I rub out a fat one first and THEN eat the cereal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago That'll show kellogg permalink fedilink source parent [–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah pour it in the trousers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago Cream of Wheat, not cream of meat. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago I'd say it does a pretty good job. I hardly ever jack off while eating Cheerios in the morning. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] benjirenji@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago There's always a reason, but it doesn't need to be entirely rational. Kellogg was a nut, but that's a different topic, no? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MML@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago Then why are they called Apple Jacks?! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's why I rub out a fat one first and THEN eat the cereal. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago That'll show kellogg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] parrhesia@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago That'll show kellogg permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago Yeah pour it in the trousers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mech@feddit.org 4 points 3 months ago (1 child) That's true for a lot of customs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Pretty much all customs are culturally transmitted - that’s kind of the definition. But they’re not necessarily totally arbitrary either - there is often some other information that can be added beyond “they have learned to do it.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 1 point 3 months ago Pretty much all customs are culturally transmitted - that’s kind of the definition. But they’re not necessarily totally arbitrary either - there is often some other information that can be added beyond “they have learned to do it.” permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stray@pawb.social 3 points 3 months ago (1 child) I can't speak for these specific people, but I know that eating clay can absorb toxins, like the kinds of poisons plants make to stop you eating them. There's also potentially mineral supplementation and introduction of beneficial bacteria. But it's not very safe to eat dirt in modern times because we've poisoned a lot of the soil with various substances. You can buy edible dirt which is known to be safe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You can buy edible dirt which is known to be safe. Wait, what? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 months ago You can buy edible dirt which is known to be safe. Wait, what? permalink fedilink source parent