▲ 180 ▼ We could learn from them (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone to c/historymemes@piefed.social 8 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago (3 children) I didn't think that Roman women were allowed to recline? 🤔 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social 20 points 4 months ago (2 children) Women were allowed to recline! The fashion of the period varied, but in general, from the Late Republic onwards reclining was always acceptable to some degree for women, and being seated was usually, either the woman or the head of the household (by insisting on the women being seated), 'virtue signaling' their modesty, if you will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) it never ceases to astound me how weird roman cultural norms were compared to basically everything i'm aware of since then. It's like starting with a basically egalitarian society and rolling a dice to determine how sexist any one thing will be. "ooh, a six! Let's go with... Women aren't allowed to cook while wearing shoes!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago It's funny, because the Romans often argued about their own traditions and sometimes couldn't even figure out the origin or purpose of them. I'm currently reading a book about how the Romans didn't even understand what one major segment of their commonly-worshipped gods were SUPPOSED to be (the lares, which are cited as everything from ancestral ghosts to nature spirits to the soul of individual places to the equivalent of friendly household gremlins); but my favorite example is always a conservative Roman jurist (Gaius, maybe?) musing that he didn't actually know why the fuck women were supposed to have a male guardian for certain legal procedures since the law otherwise recognized them as capable independent agents. For such an immensely rules-and-organization oriented culture, they really just pieced together a society and tried not to think about it too much. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 20 points 4 months ago (2 children) Women were allowed to recline! The fashion of the period varied, but in general, from the Late Republic onwards reclining was always acceptable to some degree for women, and being seated was usually, either the woman or the head of the household (by insisting on the women being seated), 'virtue signaling' their modesty, if you will. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) it never ceases to astound me how weird roman cultural norms were compared to basically everything i'm aware of since then. It's like starting with a basically egalitarian society and rolling a dice to determine how sexist any one thing will be. "ooh, a six! Let's go with... Women aren't allowed to cook while wearing shoes!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago It's funny, because the Romans often argued about their own traditions and sometimes couldn't even figure out the origin or purpose of them. I'm currently reading a book about how the Romans didn't even understand what one major segment of their commonly-worshipped gods were SUPPOSED to be (the lares, which are cited as everything from ancestral ghosts to nature spirits to the soul of individual places to the equivalent of friendly household gremlins); but my favorite example is always a conservative Roman jurist (Gaius, maybe?) musing that he didn't actually know why the fuck women were supposed to have a male guardian for certain legal procedures since the law otherwise recognized them as capable independent agents. For such an immensely rules-and-organization oriented culture, they really just pieced together a society and tried not to think about it too much. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 3 months ago* (1 child) it never ceases to astound me how weird roman cultural norms were compared to basically everything i'm aware of since then. It's like starting with a basically egalitarian society and rolling a dice to determine how sexist any one thing will be. "ooh, a six! Let's go with... Women aren't allowed to cook while wearing shoes!" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago It's funny, because the Romans often argued about their own traditions and sometimes couldn't even figure out the origin or purpose of them. I'm currently reading a book about how the Romans didn't even understand what one major segment of their commonly-worshipped gods were SUPPOSED to be (the lares, which are cited as everything from ancestral ghosts to nature spirits to the soul of individual places to the equivalent of friendly household gremlins); but my favorite example is always a conservative Roman jurist (Gaius, maybe?) musing that he didn't actually know why the fuck women were supposed to have a male guardian for certain legal procedures since the law otherwise recognized them as capable independent agents. For such an immensely rules-and-organization oriented culture, they really just pieced together a society and tried not to think about it too much. XD permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago It's funny, because the Romans often argued about their own traditions and sometimes couldn't even figure out the origin or purpose of them. I'm currently reading a book about how the Romans didn't even understand what one major segment of their commonly-worshipped gods were SUPPOSED to be (the lares, which are cited as everything from ancestral ghosts to nature spirits to the soul of individual places to the equivalent of friendly household gremlins); but my favorite example is always a conservative Roman jurist (Gaius, maybe?) musing that he didn't actually know why the fuck women were supposed to have a male guardian for certain legal procedures since the law otherwise recognized them as capable independent agents. For such an immensely rules-and-organization oriented culture, they really just pieced together a society and tried not to think about it too much. XD permalink fedilink source parent