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[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 143 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Anyone remember how much nicer the world felt before we all realized nobody in charge of anything with any real power has any idea what the fuck they're doing?

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 39 points 2 weeks ago

We didn't all realize that at the same point. Some of us have known that for a very long time.

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 5 points 1 week ago

I was twelve watching Jon Stewart. It was quite the epiphany

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They know what they are doing. Their goals just don't align with the rest of humanity.

The mistake we make is in assuming that government choices are born of incompetence... The actions of empire are not incompetent. They are not intended to serve you or the citizens, but to serve material interests, the plunder of land, natural resources, markets, and cheap labor".

-Michael Parenti

RIP to the GOAT

Edit: He talks about it in the lecture starting around 15:35. Though the quote above is from his book "against empire"

https://youtu.be/s5oPFAfdrkU?t=935

[-] Bloefz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well back then we thought everyone in charge was evil. Back then we had Krutschev, Nixon etc. Always nuclear war looming. And Reagan with this trickle downs, the Bush wars over made-up WMDs etc.

I don't think there was ever really a positive period. Maybe the 90s which was kinda the high point. Economics were good, America and NATO was the undisputed world power, nobody took global warming seriously yet and the internet was promising a great future.

Then after 2000 we had the dot com crash, 9/11, the resulting wars, Russia becoming an enemy again, the financial world crisis, the rise of the internet as a surveillance tool, global warming, the pandemic, exploding house prices everywhere.

Really pretty much exactly after the change of the century everything turned to shit.

[-] WalleyeWarrior@midwest.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

Economics were good if you lived in a western country. Former Soviet Block, Yugoslavia, and global South countries were having a rough go of thing in the 90s

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but the future was bright back then.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 5 days ago

Source: I gotta wear shades.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 2 weeks ago

They're still having a rough go of things, and they were having a rough go of things before that as well, so that's not really a valid counterpoint.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If they were having a rough go of things in the 90s. Then the 90s weren't the shining beacon of success it's claimed to be. That point is very much valid.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Then there as never been in the history of this earth a shining beacon of success because at every waking moment there wasn't an optimal number of people immune to all disease, death, and suffering, to no downside to nature around them?

The 90s is where the curve peaked for a lot of people. China had finished bringing 70% of their population out of extreme poverty since the world war era, the USA markets and deficit were stable though heading in a bad direction due to Reagan, and Europe was having a big cultural and tourism boom.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Then there as never been in the history of this earth a shining beacon of success

That was kind of my point.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -1 points 1 week ago

It's a shit point that argues against 100% valid and factual statements.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Tell that to the billions of people who've been living in poverty for decades under the U.S . Imperialist boot.

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I fucking will, bring them here and I'll tell them the peak was in the 90s.

[-] youcantreadthis@quokk.au 5 points 2 weeks ago

No that was a long time ago for some of us it's always been like this you were just insulated by privilege

[-] Shanmugha@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for notifying, I hate to know it's true (no insult intended)

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Nope.

I'm legitimately having a blast right now, 100% affirmed by reality, which I spent the last roughly 15 years of trying to tell people, very labriously, with very detailed reasoning, why what is now obvious was then and basically always has been the case.

Your discomfort is my schadenfreude.

[-] psud@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sure that back in the day there were adults in charge of the big companies. I know that where I work management used to listen to tech areas for tech stuff. Now they just trust whatever the Microsoft agent tells them

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