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[–] 144 points 3 months ago* (7 children)

Anyone remember how much nicer the world felt before we all realized nobody in charge of anything with any real power has any idea what the fuck they're doing?

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  • [–] 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    They know what they are doing. Their goals just don't align with the rest of humanity.

    The mistake we make is in assuming that government choices are born of incompetence... The actions of empire are not incompetent. They are not intended to serve you or the citizens, but to serve material interests, the plunder of land, natural resources, markets, and cheap labor".

    -Michael Parenti

    RIP to the GOAT

    Edit: He talks about it in the lecture starting around 15:35. Though the quote above is from his book "against empire"

    https://youtu.be/s5oPFAfdrkU?t=935

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Well back then we thought everyone in charge was evil. Back then we had Krutschev, Nixon etc. Always nuclear war looming. And Reagan with this trickle downs, the Bush wars over made-up WMDs etc.

    I don't think there was ever really a positive period. Maybe the 90s which was kinda the high point. Economics were good, America and NATO was the undisputed world power, nobody took global warming seriously yet and the internet was promising a great future.

    Then after 2000 we had the dot com crash, 9/11, the resulting wars, Russia becoming an enemy again, the financial world crisis, the rise of the internet as a surveillance tool, global warming, the pandemic, exploding house prices everywhere.

    Really pretty much exactly after the change of the century everything turned to shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    Economics were good if you lived in a western country. Former Soviet Block, Yugoslavia, and global South countries were having a rough go of thing in the 90s

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    They're still having a rough go of things, and they were having a rough go of things before that as well, so that's not really a valid counterpoint.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    If they were having a rough go of things in the 90s. Then the 90s weren't the shining beacon of success it's claimed to be. That point is very much valid.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 months ago* (1 child)

    Then there as never been in the history of this earth a shining beacon of success because at every waking moment there wasn't an optimal number of people immune to all disease, death, and suffering, to no downside to nature around them?

    The 90s is where the curve peaked for a lot of people. China had finished bringing 70% of their population out of extreme poverty since the world war era, the USA markets and deficit were stable though heading in a bad direction due to Reagan, and Europe was having a big cultural and tourism boom.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Then there as never been in the history of this earth a shining beacon of success

    That was kind of my point.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    It's a shit point that argues against 100% valid and factual statements.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Nope.

    I'm legitimately having a blast right now, 100% affirmed by reality, which I spent the last roughly 15 years of trying to tell people, very labriously, with very detailed reasoning, why what is now obvious was then and basically always has been the case.

    Your discomfort is my schadenfreude.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    I'm sure that back in the day there were adults in charge of the big companies. I know that where I work management used to listen to tech areas for tech stuff. Now they just trust whatever the Microsoft agent tells them

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