▲ 178 ▼ Trump brought back down to earth by Iran war fallout (www.irishtimes.com) submitted 4 months ago by MastKalandar@feddit.online to c/world@lemmy.world 45 comments fedilink hide all child comments Signs that president is losing the support of voters in advance of November's midterm elections
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 71 points 4 months ago (2 children) Trump has never been brought 'back to Earth' by any of his many, many failures. https://youtu.be/3ACCHxF4Afc He gets caught in a lie, in public, and just smiles and nods. In his mind, he's perfect, and no one can tell him different. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago* (2 children) As much as I want to wake up to the news that he's dead, I would kill for a live stream of someone just completely breaking him psychologically first. I'm really not a psychopath, but I could make an exception for this guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) The goal is control, not truth for a narcissist. You can’t break him. He’ll just continue to lie or throw into a rage. You can show him a video of him throwing a baby off a boat and he’ll gaslight you but you’ll never break him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Everyone can be broken. He's not that special. Definitely not as special as he wishes everyone to think he is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) Then just waterboard him permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago I think making him watch a deepfake of Obama boning his daughter would instantly pop an artery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago Exactly. George on 'Seinfeld' once advised Jerry that it isn't a lie if you believe it's true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) There's a Kurt Vonnegut story. A woman loves to help her friends decorate their homes. She has a book of plans for her own house. One day her husband gets an inheritance and decides to make her plans reality. He whisks her away for a vacation while her freinds/family redo the house. They rid of all the old, ugly furniture and replace it with exactly what she has in her dream book. When she steps in the place everyone expects her to be surprised, but she doesn't notice. In her mind the house always looked the way she dreamed. I think Trump is that level of delusional. No matter what you said to him, it would just prove he was right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago I think he ingrains his lies and just keeps telling himself they are true. You do that enough and only the most traumatic to your psyche are still indistinguishable from lies. So I do believe he thinks he is smart, the most popular person ever, the best deal maker, etc. But you can tell what lies he hasn't fully been ingrained and ause they still bother him, like the 2020 election. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago He can only be reigned in by powerful forces exerting serious leverage over him, and only if it's powerful enough to override his will. He could potentially lose Congress and not be able to rig enough elections to stop it, but I doubt it'll do much to hold him back. He'll probably go hard with accusations of voter fraud and use it as an excuse to meddle himself or make Congress an irrelevant political body. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 4 months ago* (2 children) As much as I want to wake up to the news that he's dead, I would kill for a live stream of someone just completely breaking him psychologically first. I'm really not a psychopath, but I could make an exception for this guy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) The goal is control, not truth for a narcissist. You can’t break him. He’ll just continue to lie or throw into a rage. You can show him a video of him throwing a baby off a boat and he’ll gaslight you but you’ll never break him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Everyone can be broken. He's not that special. Definitely not as special as he wishes everyone to think he is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) Then just waterboard him permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago I think making him watch a deepfake of Obama boning his daughter would instantly pop an artery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago Exactly. George on 'Seinfeld' once advised Jerry that it isn't a lie if you believe it's true. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) There's a Kurt Vonnegut story. A woman loves to help her friends decorate their homes. She has a book of plans for her own house. One day her husband gets an inheritance and decides to make her plans reality. He whisks her away for a vacation while her freinds/family redo the house. They rid of all the old, ugly furniture and replace it with exactly what she has in her dream book. When she steps in the place everyone expects her to be surprised, but she doesn't notice. In her mind the house always looked the way she dreamed. I think Trump is that level of delusional. No matter what you said to him, it would just prove he was right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago I think he ingrains his lies and just keeps telling himself they are true. You do that enough and only the most traumatic to your psyche are still indistinguishable from lies. So I do believe he thinks he is smart, the most popular person ever, the best deal maker, etc. But you can tell what lies he hasn't fully been ingrained and ause they still bother him, like the 2020 election. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (3 children) The goal is control, not truth for a narcissist. You can’t break him. He’ll just continue to lie or throw into a rage. You can show him a video of him throwing a baby off a boat and he’ll gaslight you but you’ll never break him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Everyone can be broken. He's not that special. Definitely not as special as he wishes everyone to think he is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) Then just waterboard him permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago I think making him watch a deepfake of Obama boning his daughter would instantly pop an artery. permalink fedilink source parent [–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago Exactly. George on 'Seinfeld' once advised Jerry that it isn't a lie if you believe it's true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago Everyone can be broken. He's not that special. Definitely not as special as he wishes everyone to think he is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) Then just waterboard him permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago I think making him watch a deepfake of Obama boning his daughter would instantly pop an artery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago I think making him watch a deepfake of Obama boning his daughter would instantly pop an artery. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago Exactly. George on 'Seinfeld' once advised Jerry that it isn't a lie if you believe it's true. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 8 points 4 months ago (1 child) There's a Kurt Vonnegut story. A woman loves to help her friends decorate their homes. She has a book of plans for her own house. One day her husband gets an inheritance and decides to make her plans reality. He whisks her away for a vacation while her freinds/family redo the house. They rid of all the old, ugly furniture and replace it with exactly what she has in her dream book. When she steps in the place everyone expects her to be surprised, but she doesn't notice. In her mind the house always looked the way she dreamed. I think Trump is that level of delusional. No matter what you said to him, it would just prove he was right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago I think he ingrains his lies and just keeps telling himself they are true. You do that enough and only the most traumatic to your psyche are still indistinguishable from lies. So I do believe he thinks he is smart, the most popular person ever, the best deal maker, etc. But you can tell what lies he hasn't fully been ingrained and ause they still bother him, like the 2020 election. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago I think he ingrains his lies and just keeps telling himself they are true. You do that enough and only the most traumatic to your psyche are still indistinguishable from lies. So I do believe he thinks he is smart, the most popular person ever, the best deal maker, etc. But you can tell what lies he hasn't fully been ingrained and ause they still bother him, like the 2020 election. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago He can only be reigned in by powerful forces exerting serious leverage over him, and only if it's powerful enough to override his will. He could potentially lose Congress and not be able to rig enough elections to stop it, but I doubt it'll do much to hold him back. He'll probably go hard with accusations of voter fraud and use it as an excuse to meddle himself or make Congress an irrelevant political body. permalink fedilink source parent