▲ 939 ▼ Lemmy's political discourse when Republicans gutted the Voting Rights Act yesterday: (thelemmy.club) submitted 4 months ago by Godric@lemmy.world to c/politicalmemes@lemmy.world 473 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 4 months ago (1 child) It must be so nice having worldviews that can be fully encapsulated by trolley memes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Well first you gotta gimme an example of one that wouldn’t fit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I guess the view that I want to articulate could be represented as a trolley meme with the following changes: The lever has only some unknown probability of steering the trolley's path Millions of other people also influence the lever to degrees which are unknown The track splits into at least 10 different paths instead of two There are more splits off of each subsequent path Each path also produces benefits to some actors (not sure how we'd represent that) If I try to simplify these changes, though, then maybe I could depict my view a bit like this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Ngl I seen trolly memes set up like this before :p permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago But hey, that's just theory... GAME THEORY permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Either way, you gotta have your hand on the lever! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (1 child) Well first you gotta gimme an example of one that wouldn’t fit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I guess the view that I want to articulate could be represented as a trolley meme with the following changes: The lever has only some unknown probability of steering the trolley's path Millions of other people also influence the lever to degrees which are unknown The track splits into at least 10 different paths instead of two There are more splits off of each subsequent path Each path also produces benefits to some actors (not sure how we'd represent that) If I try to simplify these changes, though, then maybe I could depict my view a bit like this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Ngl I seen trolly memes set up like this before :p permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago But hey, that's just theory... GAME THEORY permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Either way, you gotta have your hand on the lever! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 4 months ago* (3 children) I guess the view that I want to articulate could be represented as a trolley meme with the following changes: The lever has only some unknown probability of steering the trolley's path Millions of other people also influence the lever to degrees which are unknown The track splits into at least 10 different paths instead of two There are more splits off of each subsequent path Each path also produces benefits to some actors (not sure how we'd represent that) If I try to simplify these changes, though, then maybe I could depict my view a bit like this? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Ngl I seen trolly memes set up like this before :p permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol permalink fedilink source parent [–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago But hey, that's just theory... GAME THEORY permalink fedilink source parent [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Either way, you gotta have your hand on the lever! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Ngl I seen trolly memes set up like this before :p permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 4 months ago Perhaps I should have said "worldviews that can be encapsulated by single-junction trolley memes", lol permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 3 points 3 months ago But hey, that's just theory... GAME THEORY permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -5 points 4 months ago (1 child) Either way, you gotta have your hand on the lever! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) Yes, despite my sassiness towards you in this thread this is a true and wise observation that goes ignored too often. My disagreements are not pertaining to the idea of inaction constituting action permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Godric@lemmy.world [S] -4 points 4 months ago (1 child) No worries, I would 100% prefer the proverbial third track, but it isn't connected yet. In the meantime, I'll have extreme disdain for the jackasses standing around moralizing while the train is actively running people over. Political power is gained via votes! Vote! Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 4 months ago* I mean, yeah, this is why I think my picture turned out pretty good, Because the blue option is the better one in every single junction, but the best outcome cannot be reached by always traversing the blue path. It's interesting to try to figure out which path in that diagram produces the best overall outcome, and then compare that with what produces the best outcome if we only consider the most immediate results. I'm curious which colors you'd vote for if you were at the first junction in my diagram, knowing that your vote does not guarantee the outcome? permalink fedilink source parent
