[green, speaking, looking smug]
Okay, hear me out, here's the plan…
We go full apathy, basically we let capitalism fully spiral out into fascism. Once it's done, people will rise up and the system will collapse under its own weight. From its ashes, with our help, a better society will rise. This is how we win.

[we now see that green is tied up in front of a bleak wall, along with a group of other people, being aimed at by a firing squad of characters in fascist uniforms]
[green, smiling] OK?
[blue, pissed] Dude…

https://thebad.website/comic/accelerationism

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[–] 5 points 5 months ago (33 children)

average liberal already knows the US is fascist

No. They always think the current moment is the exception and everything way very respectable and dignified historically.

That's why you've got liberals venerating Reagan, Clinton, and Bush, having completely whitewashed the horror of those presidencial eras from their minds.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (25 children)

    I don’t think you can find a liberal who thinks the Reagan or Bush presidencies were anything but bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    “Did we ever think we would see the day when we would say, ‘Please bring back George W. Bush’?” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said during an interview with Evan Smith last week. “We really did work together.”

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (21 children)

    I don’t think people get that this difference makes a difference. As a millennial going through college during the GW Bush years, there was at least a Republican party that cared about America, cared about non political government institutions and the service those members participate in, etc. Since the tea party that shit changed. And I don’t think it’s hard to believe Mitt Romney actually cares about this country and means what he says on this thing. I feel disgusted defending Romney, but I kind of miss it when it was guys like Romney were the political opponents in power and not these MAGA folks hellbent on destroying democracy and politicizing the institutions critical to America.

    I just found 96 liberals who fit that description.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Saying "hey they might have cared a bit about institutions compared to maga" is not venerating.

    venerate /vĕn′ə-rāt″/

    To regard with deep respect or reverence. synonym: revere. Similar: revere

    Not the same meaning at all. Not even close.

    So no you didn't find 96 people that fit that description.

    When you mingle meanings like that, I'm just gonna leave it at that.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    "Venerate" may be an exaggeration, but the rest of it, thinking everything was "respectable and dignified" and "completely whitewashing the horrors from their minds" fits that to a T.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (18 children)

    You found 96 people who upvoted the comment saying Trump is worse than bush was and that Mitt Romney would be better than Trump is.

    There’s nothing there saying Bush or Reagan were good.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago (17 children)

    a Republican party that cared about America

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (16 children)

    I feel disgusted defending Romney, but I kind of miss it when it was guys like Romney were the political opponents in power and not these MAGA folks hellbent on destroying democracy and politicizing the institutions critical to America.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (15 children)

    Feel disgusted defending is still defending.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    But it’s not saying Bush or Reagan are good.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (13 children)

    Nobody said "good." The other user said "venerating" which was an exaggeration but all the rest of what they said, thinking "everything was respectable and dignified” and “completely whitewashing the horrors from their minds” 100% applies to that comment.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (12 children)

    No it doesn’t.

    I’ve said it elsewhere in this thread but I’d rather get shot in the arm instead of the head but that doesn’t mean I think getting shot in the arm is good.

    That is the point that comment is making.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (11 children)

    a Republican party that cared about America

    That's ten thousand percent whitewashing.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (10 children)

    There used to be a day when republicans sold out the US they made damn sure it was to an American.

    I get their sentiment behind that statement.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (9 children)

    So then the reason you don't think anyone's whitewashing anything is because you also whitewash them.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (8 children)

    That’s not at all what I’m saying.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (7 children)

    It certainly sounds like it is.

    Bush did not "actually care about America." He sent Americans to die in pointless wars so that his rich buddies could get even more rich. He pioneered the surveillance state. He created ICE.

    If you hadn't forgotten the horrors and weren't whitewashing him, you'd be as disgusted and repulsed by anyone talking nonsense about how he was "respectable" or "cared about America."

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (6 children)

    Bush was a horrible war criminal who should be spending the rest of his life in gitmo untouched by light but I’d rather have him as president right now.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (5 children)

    And you don't have any problem with people saying that a "horrible war criminal that belongs in gitmo" "actually cared about America?"

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (4 children)

    That comes right back around to the point that when Bush sold out the US he sold it to Americans.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

    So does Trump.

    If anything, selling out to foreigners would be preferable, because the American bourgeoisie are the direct enemies of the American proletariat. The stronger and richer they get, the more power they have to make my conditions worse, to make me accept lower wages, to endure and subvert strikes and unions. It's just straight up nationalism to think strengthening the American bourgeoisie somehow benefits regular Americans, like it's gonna trickle down somehow.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    because the American bourgeoisie are the direct enemies of the American proletariat.

    Cone on we’re having a good conversation here speak English.

    I don’t read enough theory for that to make sense to me.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    When the rich get richer, they have more power to make poor people's lives worse. I don't want rich Americans to get richer because they will use that to keep me down.

    If you only care about rich Americans or white Americans, you don't "actually care about America" in my book.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    That is pure nonsense.

    You aren't going to find liberals venerating Reagan, Bush, and Clinton because those people only exist in your mind. They don't exist in reality.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    You aren’t going to find liberals venerating Reagan, Bush, and Clinton

    How Democrats Came to Feel Nostalgic for George W. Bush

    “Did we ever think we would see the day when we would say, ‘Please bring back George W. Bush’?” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said during an interview with Evan Smith last week. “We really did work together.”

    Why Do Democrats Keep Embracing George W. Bush?

    Former Democratic Representative Katie Hill tweeted, “In a million years I never thought I’d be crying watching this, thinking how much better we’d all feel if Bush were president today. Wtf.”

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago*

    Saying "we worked together" isn't venerating JFC.

    venerate /vĕn′ə-rāt″/

    To regard with deep respect or reverence. synonym: revere. Similar: revere

    Not even close to the same thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody where I live has any respect left for the USA, except for fascists. Peter Dutton tried following the American model and he lost his seat. We hate your country.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Australia is American Plus.

    Your county is doing everything the US does on steroids. It's just too small for anyone outside the South Pacific to notice.

    Albanese and Trump signed a minerals deal just last October, ffs.

    Prime Minister Anthony Albanese welcomes the extension of the US-Iran ceasefire, says his government has been in regular contact with US and that President Donald Trump would 'always be welcome' in Australia.

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