▲ 187 ▼ California’s wildlife bridge became a target for the right. Now it’s eyeing the finish line (www.theguardian.com) submitted 4 months ago by supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net 34 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (7 children) Or just build a bridge for the cars. That's probably the cheapest option. But it wouldn't look as good. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) It wasn't mentioned in the article, but I suspect there was also pressure to keep as much of the highway open for as long as possible. Putting in a tunnel, or changing the road to a bridge would close a major shipping route for months, whereas putting in an overpass can be done with staggered lane closures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Or build a bridge next to the road while keeping the road open, and then close and demolish the road afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) Yeah, but that's just not going to work with the geography involved here, because there's mountains to one side, and a stream to the other. The wildlife bridge is connecting two protected natural areas, which makes it perfect for wildlife, horrible for construction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) ... are we talking about the same bridge? I don't see mountains or a stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago (6 children) It wasn't mentioned in the article, but I suspect there was also pressure to keep as much of the highway open for as long as possible. Putting in a tunnel, or changing the road to a bridge would close a major shipping route for months, whereas putting in an overpass can be done with staggered lane closures. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Or build a bridge next to the road while keeping the road open, and then close and demolish the road afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) Yeah, but that's just not going to work with the geography involved here, because there's mountains to one side, and a stream to the other. The wildlife bridge is connecting two protected natural areas, which makes it perfect for wildlife, horrible for construction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) ... are we talking about the same bridge? I don't see mountains or a stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago (5 children) Or build a bridge next to the road while keeping the road open, and then close and demolish the road afterwards. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) Yeah, but that's just not going to work with the geography involved here, because there's mountains to one side, and a stream to the other. The wildlife bridge is connecting two protected natural areas, which makes it perfect for wildlife, horrible for construction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) ... are we talking about the same bridge? I don't see mountains or a stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (4 children) Yeah, but that's just not going to work with the geography involved here, because there's mountains to one side, and a stream to the other. The wildlife bridge is connecting two protected natural areas, which makes it perfect for wildlife, horrible for construction. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) ... are we talking about the same bridge? I don't see mountains or a stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (3 children) ... are we talking about the same bridge? I don't see mountains or a stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago (2 children) If you can't see the mountains in the big picture at the top of that article, I can't help you, but here's an actual map of the area showing the stream: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18%2F34.138007%2F-118.728733 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child) Error 429 Unknown Error Unknown Error Error 54113 Details: cache-msp11840-MSP 1777185070 3320192906 Varnish cache server Something's broke. In the picture I see mountains miles away in the distance and I definitely don't see a steam, you're talking like the mountains and stream are right next to the bridge. At most there's a hill next to the highway, and then on the other side looks like another road. No stream. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 point 4 months ago Maybe you can get the California Wildlife Crossing Database map to load, which shows the topography, although you have to zoom in to see the stream. https://arcg.is/1n001K3 permalink fedilink source parent