I am going to preface this by saying that this is not a dispute with a moderator. I am not asking for my post to be undeleted. I will write the post from the perspective that Hexbear moderators are correct.
I am writing this post for clarification on rules of future posts.
I like to post news stories which are published by DPRK public news agencies ie DPRK state-owned media, usually KCNA. I started doing this because I saw many misinformation posts about DPRK, whether good or bad. Many of the misinformation posts about DPRK cited DPRK public news and misinterpreted the article. So I figure, I should just start posting DPRK public news directly to demystify people's ideas of DPRK.
Examples of misinformation about DPRK:
- Anti-DPRK sites which may be secretly funded by US government, such as DailyNK and NKNEWS. These sites make up bullshit about DPRK and are considered legimate by western media because their sole purpose is making bullshit.
- Some western media articles, such as published by Fox News or BBC. These articles will typically cite the Anti-DPRK sites or misinterpret information published by real DPRK sites.
- Screenshots of twitter posts with uncited sources: "Kim Jong Un said DPRK executed 2 israelis" (fake), "Kim Jong said Netanyahu is bad" (kinda real, DPRK has hated Israel since at least the 1980s), "Kim Jong Un said US is a cancer-like entity" (real quote from a much longer speech)
- Collections of images of DPRK posted without context. There are many twitter posters who seem to get images from KCNA articles and then remove the watermark and post the images without the article, so that they can take credit for the images which were published by DPRK media.
I think that News Agencies inside of DPRK are a much more reliable source of information about DPRK than outside sources. Yet, I never see other users posting links to the News Agencies that are actually inside DPRK. Other users tend post things from the other 4 categories which I mentioned.
Do hexbear users believe that DPRK is a reliable source of information about DPRK or not? Are they afraid to visit DPRK-hosted website? Do they not know that DPRK has internet and websites? Are the DPRK-hosted websites blocked in your country?
Again, I'm not disputing any decision of Hexbear mods. I'm not asking for the post to be undeleted. I want clarification for future posts, which I'm sure would also be helpful to other users.
Yesterday I posted an article from DPRK-owned media with 2 photos by DPRK government and 1 photo by the Russian government. My post was removed because Hexbear believes that the photo which was provided by DPRK government is AI-generated.
The photo which is suspected of being AI-generated was broadcast on DPRK National Television (KCTV), published in WPK's official newspaper (digital & physical) (Rodong Sinmun), and published on DPRK's publical owned news agency (KCNA).
The reason given for the photo being suspected of being AI is that it looks weird. I can't disagree with that. Many photos that come out of DPRK look weird, even before generative-AI was a norm. DPRK just looks weird in general which I ascribe to culture shock.
Hexbear removed the post, saying that the DPRK government used AI to generate the image. This means that DPRK government published an AI-generated image in a physical newspaper and broadcast it on National Television.
exhibit 0) My post which was removed for containing a photo produced by DPRK
https://hexbear.net/post/8321242
exhibit 1) Photo published on KCNA, DPRK's nationally-owned news agency.
https://archive.is/xepRu
exhibit 2) Photo published on Rodong Sinmun, DPRK WPK's official newspaper.
https://archive.is/uvSei
exhibit 3) Photo broadcast on KCTV, DPRK's national television channel. Screenshot 1 shows the image plainly. Screenshot 2 & 3 shows the image as part of a newspaper, which I would guess to be Rodong Sinmun.
video (timestamp 13:15 and 25:30) https://kcnawatch.org/kctv-archive/69ea2614e62a8/
screenshot 1) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/553ce8ba-c7fb-4529-8687-129dd84cc347.png
screenshot 2) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/bf839602-ef40-466d-ab59-13943b6ea932.png
screenshot 3) https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/c2becb72-b6b0-4085-b4ab-0a512296911b.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Central_News_Agency
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodong_Sinmun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Central_Television
Here's my concern, AI-generated does not mean "looks weird". AI-generated means that the image was not produced with a physical camera. AI-generated images could look totally normally, just as photos made with a camera could look weird.
My post was removed. I am being told that I broke a rule by posting an image that was created by the DPRK government and seemingly reported by DPRK as being a legitimate image.
Now I have to be concerned about whether photos posted by DPRK government are considered to be legimate by Hexbear, which seems to be the greater authority on what actually happens in DPRK.
For clarification on my future posts, I need to have some questions answered.
- Does Hexbear consider DPRK to be a reliable source of information?
- Will my posts in the future be removed for containing images published by DPRK government?
- If Hexbear considers images which look weird to be AI-generated. How do we know that images that don't look weird are not AI-generated?
- Will Hexbear users face consequences for posting information provided by DPRK government because it looks weird?
These questions could also apply to other governments.
Different mods with different opinions on what should be removed from their comms