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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/72043

2/4/2021 Update: In light of chucklefuck TERF shit with Giggle, I am once again demanding the rest of you liberals educate yourselves on trans issues with Trans Liberation as a starting point. And you better believe more literature on minority struggle is in the pipelines. We're doing some reading this month, libs. Get ready.


AUDIOBOOKS HAVE BEEN RECORDED FOR ALL 8 CHAPTERS. YOU LITERALLY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR LIBERALISM.

https://hexbear.net/post/48476

Follow that link and you'll find a free download of the book in pdf and comrade @EugeneDebs's epub, comrade @futomes' audiobooks for all eight chapters, and notes and discussions from the book (and don't you dare just read the fucking notes you god damn liberals, read the fucking book or listen to the audiobook).

I spent an entire weekend night scanning the whole damn book so y'all could educate yourselves on the fucking struggles we've been screaming about for the past six months and hardly any of you damn cissie libs participated. Had you participated you'd probably have a better understanding of the struggles we face and we probably wouldn't be in this situation where trans people are heading for this damn hills because you're all shit libs driving us away.

Fucking read it or listen to the audiobooks and I won't ask again. It's all free. The book is only 147 pages - that's 7 pages per night for exactly 3 weeks. I wipe my fucking ass with 7 pages, that's nothing. People put genuine effort into this to ensure you could educate yourselves and you have no reason not to outside of fucking liberalism.

It reads quick. Drop whatever the fuck you're reading and read this. Now. :leslie-shining:

~~Edit: I'll be throwing up a discussion thread at some point in the next week or so for you damn shitlibs to comment on with things you find meaningful so I'll know if you actually gave a shit. I swear to God I better see y'all in the comments.~~

If you're having trouble downloading, there are links in this comment by u/hexaflexagonbear that seem to work.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That scene is classism pure though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I dunno. Chuckie’s aware of the classism that exists that’s keeping his options limited and opening up options for Will. But in context, Will’s not doing this work out of some sense that construction is more honorable. He’s not rejecting academic work out of class solidarity. He enjoys it and struggles to feed that part of himself in his current situation, but avoids the opportunity to do so to maintain a sense of control. And in the end, he finds a way to be vulnerable and open to that part of himself without siding with the walking bag of classism that is Professor Lambeau.

I’m not gonna act like the movie’s some pinnacle of leftist art or whatever. Plenty of shit in it’s bad, but I fundamentally don’t think it drops the ball enough on class to say its effect is upholding it. If anything, a big reason why it’s important for him to find another path is that, while disingenuous, he is correct about how fucked up the academic work he’s being asked to do is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The writers and producers did decide that a scene has to be there in which our protagonist does sever his last social connection that directly relates to the class and loyalty of his friends and crew. This of course has to be initiated by his former buddy as to not create a moral guilt.

While I do agree mostly with your reading from the in universe logic (especially that what he did academically was meh). Though it remains that there is a clear valuation of what work is good and which isn't. Some aspect of that is monetary valuation, the liberal leftist speech in regard to not wanting to work for the military is sadly not enough to breach it - as it is linked to the general anti war sentiment of the liberal's in relation to Vietnam and thus not honest, as we could see 4 years later after 9/11).