BeardededSquidward comments on lets stop thinking guys

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 5 months ago (11 children)

In the neo-liberal brain and rhetoric that's how they have to argue to get you to swallow the poison of the "lesser evil."

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[+] aesthelete@lemmy.world -13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

Dude could actually nuke Iran and kill millions and dumb assholes online still wouldn't concede that he is and was obviously the worse evil.

Edit: think I'm wrong? Think I'm exaggerating? Read the rest of the thread

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 months ago (7 children)

The difference between terrible and more terrible is a thin line. If you think the world is only binary choices then you're the type of person leftist rail against. There's more choices but Democrats would have you believe there isn't.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* (6 children)

Not in this voting system there isn't. I don't know why online third party cranks are so fucking abysmal at game theory. It's blatantly obvious that only two outcomes are possible on general election day but you lot think you can manifest third party viability through shit posting.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's not game theory when you see the two parties as the same side of the same coin which is what people like you fail to realize. Let me put it this way, there are Democrats still voting FOR Trump appointees, and it's not a few of them. If they're really "The Resistance" like they want us to think they can start but not voting with the fascists. But hey, blue no matter who, right?

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

It’s not game theory when you see the two parties as the same side of the same coin which is what people like you fail to realize.

Same side of the same coin? That is...not the expression.

I'm pretty sure Trump could actually nuke Iran and you'd still be on here talking about how Harris would've been bad...exactly how I was saying in my first response.

There's a time to vote for an alternative in the US system. That time is during the primary. If you actually gave a shit you'd be advocating for ranked choice, a change to the funding system of elections, or both. But nope, you're just another one of Trump's useful idiots.

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yes, because evil is still evil. What in the living fuck do you not understand supporting Harris was still supporting Israel as well. Jesus fucking christ you people tire the fuck out of me with your inane vote blue no matter who lesser of two evils bullshit. As long as you continue to play with their games they'll continue to never improve. So you can continue and hope for harm reduction or not vote, campaign for those you would like to actually see and refuse to vote for those you don't like at all. Because right now, Newsom is looking like the Democrat's candidate of choice and he's goddamn awful of a politician and person.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children)

As long as you continue to play with their games they’ll continue to never improve.

Look man, the American electorate did what you wanted and didn't vote for Harris. Things looking better? Things improving?

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[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Voted for Harris, regret the vote now because I argue with insincere, blame mongers like you. And believe it or not, there's improvement in areas of voting with the younger MAGA becoming disillusioned and realizing they were wrong, swapping to Democrats who are seeing a rise of non-conservative candidates running for various offices.

How long would it be before another Republican became president because of Democrat ineptitude anyway if things continued on this trajectory? We're driving off a cliff, the Dems are just not accelerating while the GQP are. In the end, we're still getting closer to that cliff!

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Voted for Harris, regret the vote now because I argue with insincere, blame mongers like you.

Yep, you got me, I'm a dyed-in-the-wool "blue no matter who" blame monger 👍. Not just a guy who can obviously see that the American electorate had a simple choice at general election time and chose...poorly.

I'll once again state the obvious: shit is NOT better than it was before the American electorate "taught" the Democrats a "lesson" by not voting for Harris.

But hey, at least we have folks like you who look on the bright side. Even if the Democratic establishment is still completely the same, and largely "learned" the "lesson" that Harris was "too woke" and "cared too much about pronouns", the Republicans are even more nakedly authoritarian because that resulted in electoral success for the mad king, we're "all gas, no brakes" going over the cliff, and we've taken several large steps toward accelerating the worst of the climate crisis.

That's not to mention the building full of schoolchildren, the people ICE disappears and kills, etc. etc. forever.

You're exhausting to go back and forth with, and there's no value in these exchanges. So enjoy your optimism and I won't be typing any further responses. Keep advocating for third parties that'll never mathematically work in the system we have. I'm sure you'll continue to enjoy electoral success! 🫡

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[–] Capable_Coping@piefed.social 14 points 5 months ago (1 child)

people aren't saying that Kamala wasn't the lesser evil. They are saying that running evil candidates suppresses voter turnout and that doing so is a loosing strategy (unless doing evil is your gole, like the GOP)

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago*

I agree that it's a dumb strategy, but given the choice it's obvious that Harris was better qualified, less evil, and would not actively work to make your life worse. It's just that the average American voter is a window licker / paste eater so they voted for the other guy.

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