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Honda President After Visiting Chinese Auto Supplier:'We Have No Chance Against This' (www.motor1.com)
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[–] [S] 49 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

The other guy who went to China and was shocked was the CEO of Ford. He is driving a Xiaomi SU7 that he's refusing to give up. Read the interview he gave after he visited China. https://insideevs.com/news/764318/ford-ceo-china-evs-humbled/

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  • [–] 105 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child)

    Ugh... He's not impressed with the gasoline free, infinitely superior propulsion technology - he's impressed by how much the in vehicle systems are like smartphones.

    I threw up a little. We're never escaping this bullshit.

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  • [–] 55 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    I hate this chasing of overly complicated and excessive software in cars. The only touchscreen I want in my car is the one that let's me run Android Auto for GPS and music. Everything else should be tactile analog switches and dials. Whichever person thought touchscreens are a safe UI choice in a fast moving death machine is insane.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Rest of the world if you live in Europe or China where they have enough bargaining power from their size I suppose. Doubt this will work in smaller countries and regions. Only hope is that the manufacturers feel that it's not worth it to make 2 different models of the same car.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That would be everyone's favourite Elon Musk

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  • [–] 6 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    That's Elon "Why would we need lidar? Humans don't use lidar, they just use their eyes and there's no reason technology could possibly improve on human vision" Musk?

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Humans don't... Sheesh. Humans crash cars, asshole! Use the bloody lidar!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I don't even need that. We all literally carry a gps device with a touch screen in our pockets at all times

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    It's nice to have it on a fixed screen of decent size rather than on a floppy mount and a 6.x" screen. The car screen doesn't need to be a touchscreen though. My Mercedes had Carplay with a rotary dial, no touchscreen. That was when they were still being conservative with their tech, then they went the hyperscreen route.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Most Chinese cars now have one long screen along the dashboard. It's generally split in 3 sections, one for the driver, one for controls and one for the passenger with controls but also to play media. Plus most Chinese cars have voice commands.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago

    Unfortunately yes. I still think the rotary knob is the ultimate infotainment control interface since it's much easier to use while driving. Still, I'll take the large screen for navigation over my tiny one even if I have to use the touch screen. Voice control rarely works for me, I have a very thick accent.

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  • [–] 18 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    A few, like Tesla, have successfully made cars that act and feel like consumer devices—vehicles with lots of tech features, **** and a steady stream of meaningful software updates. Most are playing catch-up.

    "smooth digital interfaces"

    Nobody actually fucking wants this!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Yes they do. The internet is a loud minority on both ends. The majority is silent because they don't give a shit about the politics of the CEO or privacy or reasonable expectations about their mobility appliance. It's just an appliance. The more cool things it claims to do, the more it sells because the people buying NEW want it to look new.

    This thread is full of "I don't buy new, but here's what new cars should do". No, I don't buy new either.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    Nobody actually fucking wants this!

    Ah, but they do. You have to be in this industry to realize just how stupid people can be. They will impulse buy a $60,000 car based on steering wheel shape and bullshit gadgetry. A friend boasted he could sell a car for $5K more just by hanging reflective cat toys around the interior. Tesla sales were driven by the big iPad more than the electric drive.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I do. Why does everyone in this thread like twiddling with HVAC controls? I like setting my temperature to 68 and Auto, and that's it. Do you all also constantly mess with your home thermostats?

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Okay here's a situation. You're on a road and it's gotten foggy and the roads are a bit slick because of the fog. All of a sudden the comfortable 68° temperature you have the cabin set to is causing your windshield to fog up. On a car with buttons and knobs you can just reach over grab it twist a knob or press a button and change the setting. However, with touch screen menus you have to actually turn to look at the screen, taking your eyes off the road in unsafe weather, to find the setting to switch it to defog. That's just one scenario there are at least a dozen others. Not to mention what would happen when it's snowing out and you have to take your eyes off the road to search a touch screen for the right setting on anything. Radio, brights, 4 wheel drive, etc etc etc...

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (1 child)

    I want this car sooooo bad, the price pre-american tarrifs is absolutely amazing.

    all car manufacturers have been phoning it in for years, it was only a matter of time before a decent threat decided to join in on the fun. I thought it would be tesla to be the major disrupter over ten years ago, but we all know how this is panning out lol

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