â–² 142 â–¼ Germany: Chancellor Merz has never been more unpopular (www.dw.com) submitted 4 months ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/europe@feddit.org 39 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 6 points 4 months ago (1 child) And now that they're disappointed with him, polls move further to the right, so they still don't get the problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IratePirate@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I fear they aren't trying (or likely) to "get" anything. I think we need to come to terms with the fact that for right-wingers, there's nothing rational about their political decisions. Yes, they will rationalise it after the fact when pressed by pollsters, claiming they're mostly concerned about migration or the economy. But if you really drill down, you'll find that many of them live in parts of the country where there are hardly any migrants, and that the economic policies of their favoured right-wing parties would hurt them more than anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if you really drill down, you’ll find that many of them live in parts of the country where there are hardly any migrants, and that the economic policies of their favoured right-wing parties would hurt them more than anyone else. For example, most migrants live in cities. Many cities have strong Green and little AfD votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago Precisely! Where do we see the highest percentages of AfD? Rural areas in Eastern Germany, which have been a) hit hard by the economic shifts of reunification b) have suffered from severe population drain because young people follow opportunity, and that does lie in the cities rather than in the countryside. c) hardly see any migrants due to a) and b), but are full of people willing to listen to a good scapegoat story that gives them somebody to hate for the conditions they live in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago* for right-wingers, there's nothing rational about their political decisions. I agree. But what we're seeing is voter migration from e.g. the social democrats to the fascists. Those can't all be "hardened" right wingers (yet) who are lost to democracy. Otherwise, why would they ever have voted social democrat before? There's a lot of people who are disappointed with politics and feel that no government ever did anything for them. But they turn to the people who openly tell them that they'll fuck them over even worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I fear they aren't trying (or likely) to "get" anything. I think we need to come to terms with the fact that for right-wingers, there's nothing rational about their political decisions. Yes, they will rationalise it after the fact when pressed by pollsters, claiming they're mostly concerned about migration or the economy. But if you really drill down, you'll find that many of them live in parts of the country where there are hardly any migrants, and that the economic policies of their favoured right-wing parties would hurt them more than anyone else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if you really drill down, you’ll find that many of them live in parts of the country where there are hardly any migrants, and that the economic policies of their favoured right-wing parties would hurt them more than anyone else. For example, most migrants live in cities. Many cities have strong Green and little AfD votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago Precisely! Where do we see the highest percentages of AfD? Rural areas in Eastern Germany, which have been a) hit hard by the economic shifts of reunification b) have suffered from severe population drain because young people follow opportunity, and that does lie in the cities rather than in the countryside. c) hardly see any migrants due to a) and b), but are full of people willing to listen to a good scapegoat story that gives them somebody to hate for the conditions they live in. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago* for right-wingers, there's nothing rational about their political decisions. I agree. But what we're seeing is voter migration from e.g. the social democrats to the fascists. Those can't all be "hardened" right wingers (yet) who are lost to democracy. Otherwise, why would they ever have voted social democrat before? There's a lot of people who are disappointed with politics and feel that no government ever did anything for them. But they turn to the people who openly tell them that they'll fuck them over even worse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) But if you really drill down, you’ll find that many of them live in parts of the country where there are hardly any migrants, and that the economic policies of their favoured right-wing parties would hurt them more than anyone else. For example, most migrants live in cities. Many cities have strong Green and little AfD votes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago Precisely! Where do we see the highest percentages of AfD? Rural areas in Eastern Germany, which have been a) hit hard by the economic shifts of reunification b) have suffered from severe population drain because young people follow opportunity, and that does lie in the cities rather than in the countryside. c) hardly see any migrants due to a) and b), but are full of people willing to listen to a good scapegoat story that gives them somebody to hate for the conditions they live in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IratePirate@feddit.org 2 points 4 months ago Precisely! Where do we see the highest percentages of AfD? Rural areas in Eastern Germany, which have been a) hit hard by the economic shifts of reunification b) have suffered from severe population drain because young people follow opportunity, and that does lie in the cities rather than in the countryside. c) hardly see any migrants due to a) and b), but are full of people willing to listen to a good scapegoat story that gives them somebody to hate for the conditions they live in. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 1 point 4 months ago* for right-wingers, there's nothing rational about their political decisions. I agree. But what we're seeing is voter migration from e.g. the social democrats to the fascists. Those can't all be "hardened" right wingers (yet) who are lost to democracy. Otherwise, why would they ever have voted social democrat before? There's a lot of people who are disappointed with politics and feel that no government ever did anything for them. But they turn to the people who openly tell them that they'll fuck them over even worse. permalink fedilink source parent