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wtf is even happening (thelemmy.club)
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https://orbital.horse/@emma/116332735635208111

https://www.raspberrypi.com/products/raspberry-pi-5/

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[–] 81 points 5 months ago (25 children)

To be fair, who needs 16GB of RAM on a Pi? The hell are you running on it that needs that? Are you trying to use it as a desktop?

Considering the 3 only had 2GB of ram, and the 4 only had 4GB of ram for the longest time, it's probably better to compare the 8GB model. Which is still $135.

Even the 1GB model is $50. Fucking ridiculous.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago* (4 children)

    I have the 8 GB one.
    I agree the 16 GB one is useless (especially how weak it is,I would rather buy a Optiplex or Thinkpad for that price with 16gb ram)

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Power efficiency is still a consideration. I am 100% for rehoming business waste. I have several optiplex and think station's. Modern AMD and Intel are getting better. But still not there in efficiency. And older systems certainly aren't. But sadly, at this point unless that or space are at a premium. For home lab use they are much less viable now.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Oh true.
    Thats why i bought a rpi5 (when it was still 80 usd),I love how you can run it from a powerbank and a usbc screen concurrently.
    Which am currently doing with mine.
    I also like how you can make it portable.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Yes I'm very interested in different ISAs myself. Looking to make a super portable system from an SBC. Although I'm waiting to see what these upcoming RVA23 RiscV SBCs are going to bring. And hopefully build something around one of them. If by the point they come out later this year Hardware just hasn't become unaffordable entirely.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Tbh I've been running some repurposed "office waste" as you put it on 8-10W and 10-12W (idle but also even with some load the consumption doesn't tick up meaningfully). On 8th gen and 7th gen intel core i5s respectively.

    I don't recall how much RPis use up - I'm sure it is/can be less, but 10W is also really low, no? Especially as far as a full server box with spinning rust and all that goes.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (12 children)

    Are you trying to use it as a desktop?

    Why not. It has enough power. But you can easily consume all that RAM if you run Minecraft server, or crypto software

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    But why would you do that on a raspberry?

    I mean if you have one already go ahead do your thing! But here we're talking buying a new one.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    At that price it's really pointless.

    But at normal prices, you can slap passive radiator on it, and have perfectly decent server for these things taped to the wall behind your desk. Zero noise, minimal power consumption, works reliably 24h

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (8 children)

    Yeah sure, those small pieces are marvels for stuff like that!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    It actually saves you decent money compared to regular optiplex. In 24h work power savings translate into meaningfully lower electricity cost over the year.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I think mine is like 10 watts so not very expensive yearly, like 20€. And everyone forgets that for many, it's just energy you'd use for heating anyways during many months of the year.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah, but it's only 100% efficient at best. Heat pumps are 200% - 400% so it is not really a 1 to 1 as far as heating. And in warm months you have to offset that heat so it very well could be a net loss.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Sure, that 20€ will really hit me hard 😁 /j

    Nice find about heat pump efficiency, I had not thought about that!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Ehhhhh it kinda has enough power.

    I have an 8GB Pi5 we use as a desktop in our living room. PiOS is sluggish to navigate, even though it’s an 8GB pi5 running off an NVMe SSD instead of a memory card. It’s just there to stream YT and Twitch and whatnot though, and it streams at 60FPS no problem once you’ve got the stream pulled up.

    I wouldn’t recommend it as a desktop PC though, as navigating the OS and loading programs is not a great experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    There are use cases for it. If you have robotic applications that heavily rely on machine vision and image processing it might be needed. You can also upgrade the Raspberry pi 4 and 5 with this so called AI shield, to increase performance.

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