▲ 576 ▼ Bluesky decides to enshittify at record speed! (gizmodo.com) submitted 4 months ago by Agrivar@lemmy.world to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world 129 comments fedilink hide all child comments I guess I'm glad I was never a big Twat, so Bluesky wasn't a place of refuge for me the way Lemmy was when Reddit went off the rails.
[+] versionc@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Both of those are federated options with no central company behind them. They have issues, but not because they have a corporate algorithm feeding their users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) So not all social media, gotcha. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) Is it Social Media if there's no algo? No one called IRC or old forums "social media" when they were at their heights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Or Usenet. Or BBSs. But one could argue they were all social media. I think the difference is the control that is being exerted by people in power. And that’s likely due to the audience size. It becomes an effective way to guide people’s ideas, decisions, etc. Facebook got there. Reddit got there. Lemmy could. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It just wasn't a term yet because it wasn't popular. But yes, those were social media. IRC was a medium in which you could be social. I was there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago Absolutely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 child) Both of those are federated options with no central company behind them. They have issues, but not because they have a corporate algorithm feeding their users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) So not all social media, gotcha. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) Is it Social Media if there's no algo? No one called IRC or old forums "social media" when they were at their heights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Or Usenet. Or BBSs. But one could argue they were all social media. I think the difference is the control that is being exerted by people in power. And that’s likely due to the audience size. It becomes an effective way to guide people’s ideas, decisions, etc. Facebook got there. Reddit got there. Lemmy could. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It just wasn't a term yet because it wasn't popular. But yes, those were social media. IRC was a medium in which you could be social. I was there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children) So not all social media, gotcha. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) Is it Social Media if there's no algo? No one called IRC or old forums "social media" when they were at their heights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Or Usenet. Or BBSs. But one could argue they were all social media. I think the difference is the control that is being exerted by people in power. And that’s likely due to the audience size. It becomes an effective way to guide people’s ideas, decisions, etc. Facebook got there. Reddit got there. Lemmy could. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It just wasn't a term yet because it wasn't popular. But yes, those were social media. IRC was a medium in which you could be social. I was there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent [+] GrindingGears@lemmy.ca 1 point 4 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) Is it Social Media if there's no algo? No one called IRC or old forums "social media" when they were at their heights. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Or Usenet. Or BBSs. But one could argue they were all social media. I think the difference is the control that is being exerted by people in power. And that’s likely due to the audience size. It becomes an effective way to guide people’s ideas, decisions, etc. Facebook got there. Reddit got there. Lemmy could. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent [–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It just wasn't a term yet because it wasn't popular. But yes, those were social media. IRC was a medium in which you could be social. I was there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (1 child) Or Usenet. Or BBSs. But one could argue they were all social media. I think the difference is the control that is being exerted by people in power. And that’s likely due to the audience size. It becomes an effective way to guide people’s ideas, decisions, etc. Facebook got there. Reddit got there. Lemmy could. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 child) Who would be the ones to do it in lemmy? People are switching to federated options to guard against that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago It’s resistant for sure. But say one instance becomes dominant and controls most traffic? It’s still possible however unlikely. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 child) It just wasn't a term yet because it wasn't popular. But yes, those were social media. IRC was a medium in which you could be social. I was there. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 child) I was there too. It wasn't a term because marketers didn't invent the term yet. Key part, it was Marketers that invented the term. Marketers didn't care before they found a way to use it to manipulate people. You can argue that those thing are "social media", but not in anyway that makes social media a problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago Social media invented as a term or not invented as a term, it's still a place where we can socialize on the Internet. 🤷♂️ I don't really care what we call it. permalink fedilink source parent