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Wikipedia has banned AI-generated text, with two exceptions (www.howtogeek.com)
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[–] 261 points 6 months ago (21 children)

AIbros: we're creating God!!!

AI users: it can do translation & reformating pretty well but you got to check it's not chatting shit

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  • [–] 102 points 6 months ago (14 children)

    The takeaway from all LLM-based AI is the user needs to be smart enough to do whatever they're asking anyway. All output needs to be verified before being used or relied upon.

    The "AI" is just streamlining the process to save time.

    Relying on it otherwise is stupid and just proves instantly that you are incompetent.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (11 children)

    the user needs to be smart enough to do whatever they're asking anyway

    I'm gonna say that's ideal but not quite necessary. What's needed is that the user is capable of properly verifying the output. Which anyone who could do it themselves definitely can, but it can be done more broadly. It's an easier skill to verify a result than it is to obtain that result. Think: how film critics don't necessarily need to be filmmakers, or the P=NP question in computer science.

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (9 children)

    But if the output has issues, what're you going to do, prompt it again? If you are only able to verify but not do the task, you cannot correct the AI's mistakes yourself.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    At the risk of sounding like an overly obsequious AI… You know what, you're completely right. I'm honestly not sure what use case I was imagining when I wrote that last comment.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Making text flow naturally, grouping and ordeeing information, good writing.

    You can verify two textst have the same facts and information, yet one reads way better than the other. But writing a text that reads well is quite hard.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    You were thinking logically about a normal production chain. In that case, QA or whoever says "This is wrong, rework it and correct the issue" and that's that. With AI, it does the whole thing over again and may or may not come back with the same issue or an entirely new one.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    In Wikipedias case, you just fail to make an edit/new post. So you can verify if Ai can make a usable post up to standard with people who can verify but not make, hopefully saving enough time and bulk to help that group learn to make properly, as well as leave the ones Ai will fuck up to people who can do it right.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (2 children)

    If you're unable to brute-force verification (research, testing, consulting the ancient texts), there's where you stop what you're doing, and take a breath. Then, consult an expert. Just like the film critic analogy, it's easier to verify than to create, so you're saving the expert time and effort while learning about something that you were obviously already passionate enough about to have started this endeavor.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    As someone who codes, it's not always easier to verify than to create.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    As someone who codes, I specifically didn't say "always" because of course it's not always true. Especially in the cases of "garbage in, garbage out."

    But there's still an argument to be made for mental load and context, for which I'd argue that planning solutions and then writing the code generally is more taxing than someone handing you suggested solutions with semi-complete code or pseudo-code, and then identifying road blocks.

    On the other hand, if someone you trust unexpectedly hands you hallucinated garbage, then you're likely to spin your wheels trying to identify what they did.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    This is where domain expertise would come in, no? It's speeding up the work but it usually outputs generic content, and whatever else it injects while hallucinating. Therefore the validation part holds up I'd say.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    This is absolutely the case, and honestly, at least for now how it needs to be across the board.

    Noone should be using AI to do things you're incapable of doing (or undoing).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    Relying on it otherwise is stupid and just proves instantly that you are incompetent.

    Relying on it in any circumstances (though medical stuff is understandable if you're simply too poor or don't have access) while it is exhausting water supplies and polluting the planet is stupid and instantly proves that you are stupid and inconsiderate.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Fucking hate those anti human filth pushing slop into everything. I want to take one apart with power tools.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Damn that movie was funny. I need to rewatch it.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I don't think AI users would say it does reformatting either (if they're honest): If you tell a chatbot to reformat text without changing it, it will change the text, because it does not understand the concept of not changing text. It should only take one time for someone to get burned for them to learn that lesson.

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