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Microsoft wants devs to build Electron AI apps on Windows 11, says no need of native code, despite RAM concerns (www.windowslatest.com)
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Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

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[–] 119 points 5 months ago* (11 children)

Today it took almost 30 seconds for the context menu to appear when I right clicked on a file in windows explorer. I mean ffs, if I wanted everything to be a browser, I'd use a chromebook.

(Inb4 "install linux", it's a work computer and I don't get a say in OS)

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  • [–] 52 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Dude. Same. Windows 11 at work is fucking awful.

    My laptop idles at 12 out of 16 gigs of RAM free.

    Right clicking takes dozens of seconds, especially on a network share.

    Did IT remove a letter mapped network drive? Haha! Fuck you! Windows hangs indefinitely if you open Windows explorer. You gotta fuck around in the registry to remove that shit.

    The only good thing about windows 11 is tabs in Windows explorer. Which MacOS and Linux have had for a gazillion years.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    This reminds me that many years ago, there was a small market for better file managers in Windows. Most were more like "side grades" that were better in some ways, but worse than others, but there was one that was way better than all of them called Directory Opus. It was silly expensive for the time (I want to say like $80), and most others were free, but holy shit was it feature filled, including tabs, and just really good. It was also a bit heavy compared to explorer back then. Now it probably runs insanely fast and is still way better. I just looked and it still exists at basically the same price, but any sane person considering it should just leave Windows.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago* (2 children)

    Even in Edge, Outlook (a Microslop web app running on a Microslop browser) sometimes takes up to a minute to load on refresh. HOW!? God I hate that company.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Just like the good old days of running Windows 3.1 on an Intel 386sx. We've come full circle.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    Win 3.1 wasn't even that slow on a 386sx (yay, 386 buddies! o/), its nothing compared to Win 11 on midrange and lower laptops these days. Then again, those CPUs usually came in PCs with Win 3.0, so Win 3.1 was definitely noticeably heavier. MS also wasn't nearly as large and well funded back then, there is no excuse for this other than pure incompetence.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Look into cleaning up your context menu shell extensions: just a single bad one will freeze your context menu exactly how you described it.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately, I have literally zero control over what's installed on my computer at work

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Do you have access to HKEY_CURRENT_USER in the registry? You can usually edit this even without admin rights.

    I went back to the old Win10 right click menu by this method on my work PC, which sped things up substantially

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/2287432/(article)-restore-old-right-click-context-menu-in

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I actually have a batch script (might be a powershell script?) with this and some other stuff in it for when I'm doing a fresh install on my pc.

    My work pc is locked the fuck down though, I can't even change my wallpaper or the color of the taskbar lol.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    work computer, Win 11, here. I need to lock my PC when I leave my desk. Over the last month or 2 (maybe more?) when I 3 finger salute to lock, it used to open in a moment, now I can count to at least 4 before the screen comes up

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Windows+L locks it directly, fyi

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Find a new job

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Me every day at work.

    It's even worse working in the company's network drive.

    But damn, it often takes ages for a right click to appear in the goddamned downloads folder (which is in its default C drive location...)

    I feel you pain friend.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    As long as you're getting paid for those 30 seconds, it's the shareholders' problem. Keep your blood cool, take a sip of coffee and sit back. Twiddle with a thingamajig on your desk.

    If your supervisor asks what you're doing, say "waiting for Windows to load". Because that's what you're doing, and if they don't like it then they should let you use a different OS.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    When I started at my last job, I asked for a mac; I worked on Linux, Windows (wsl), and wanted a change. Most of my collegues (in the dev team) initially asked for a windows PC, but literally everyone ended up on Mac.

    Windows is only usable when the WSL is set up and then you basically work exclusively on that VM lol, I literally cannot understand how anyone puts up with this OS. Any other OS is excellent just by comparison.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    It's not really a matter of preference. I'm a mechanical engineer, not a developer, and several industry-standard programs are only available for windows. Bugs that come from running in WINE or another emulation layer are unacceptable when they can potentially cause delays in production, scrap parts from a misprint or miscalculation, or lead to a part failure that kills someone.

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  • [–] 0 points 5 months ago

    Oh yeah I'm aware that some professionals are essentially locked to a single platform (same goes with accounting and Excel), I can only hope that the industries this affects start taking Linux more seriously (or Mac, but tbh once you're running on Mac it's less of a leap to work on Linux)

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Win 11 feels like i replaced by SSD with an HDD. I'm half convinced that they're making it as awful as possible so when the whole OS as a service thing arrives, it'll feel super snappy.

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