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Electron apps are ruining the Windows 11 experience, and even the JavaScript creator has warned against ‘rushed web UX over native,’ but it doesn’t look like that will change Microsoft’s plans. In a post on X and other places, Microsoft reaffirmed its commitment to AI in Windows 11 and encouraged Electron developers to consider using AI in their apps.

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[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 53 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.

They've fucked it up recently, but basically, 90% of the time you'd get the same consistent interface design across all apps, with common design language and iconography and accessibility features. They aggressively deprecate so you have to keep that $100 dev fee rolling, but the experience has been good for the the better part of 20 years (post carbon & X11, pre-liquid ass, the cocoa years).

If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 30 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If everything on Windows is a vibe-coded web app then everything is going to look like different, feel like shit to use, and perform like shit.

I am happy to report: Windows apps that look different, feel shit to use and perform like shit are already available!

E.g. Teams, the CPU warmer from hell, was rolled out to Windows long ago. It was coded for Electron and couldn't even integrate with Microsoft Windows' taskbar popups. They had to fake one by creating a window that moved itself up from below the screen. Did this break when you changed resolution? Yes it did. Did it break when you moved the taskbar? Yes it did. Did it break when- YES IT DID

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago

The one thing Apple has done an amazing job of over the years is providing a solid, clean, common application framework for all of their systems.

iOS doesn't even have a universal back button, every app has their own way of implementing it.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

If your app uses NavigationView, like 80% of apps, you get a back button and swipe gesture for free.

[-] Link@rentadrunk.org 4 points 8 hours ago

It has swipe to the right from the side of the screen. That works in very application I’ve tried.

[-] batshit@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

It's not universal. It has become more common, but there is no OS-level enforcement

[-] org@lemmy.org 4 points 12 hours ago

How has Apple fucked up recently?

[-] faltryka@lemmy.world 25 points 12 hours ago

As an avid Apple user the most recent ui changes are unfathomably bad. The os has become notably less useful to me in som frustrating ways. I can solve some but not all of it through settings.

[-] org@lemmy.org 6 points 12 hours ago

You mean since 26? I agree. I dunno who they have at the wheel, but they need to step down lol.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago
[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 12 hours ago

IIRC the person most responsible for Liquid Glass now works at Meta.

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