▲ 229 ▼ Federal Surveillance Tech Becomes Mandatory in New Cars by 2027 (www.yahoo.com) submitted 5 months ago by AntiBullyRanger@ani.social to c/privacy@programming.dev 65 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] JordanZ@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 16 points 5 months ago (2 children) or showing fatigue Oh, you mean like literally every morning as I'm leaving for work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] johntash@eviltoast.org 17 points 5 months ago Sorry boss, I can't come in today because my car says I'm too tired permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I'm about to say something that can be read as me supporting this shit, and I do not. However. Driving fatigued is about as unsafe as driving drunk. Assuming you are actually fatigued. There was a time in the past when we allowed people to actively drink and drive. I think - for the most part - not allowing that was a good idea. IN THEORY preventing people from driving fatigued is not a bad idea. IN PRACTICE we all know it won't be as simple as that. But the basic idea itself is… not all bad. It's a pity we know it'll go to shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well we're going to have to figure out something for all the people who take a couple hours to get their brains into gear in the morning if you want to stop that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yes indeed. I don't think it'll be easy at all. Trying to stop intoxicated driving is difficult enough, and that's usually driving that happens "after hours". So this would be ten times more difficult. I suppose, in theory, most of the time forcing the use of some sort of alternate transportation would work, although we'd have to figure out how to make it cheaper. We often drink close to where we live, and work far from where we live. If it was up to me, I'd delay this further and do more research and get more smart people coming up with ideas on how to solve these problems, because it would be worth trying to fix. But then again, there are so many problems we should be tackling, this is a relatively minor one..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Fuck off with your nuanced take. We're here to be irrational and fire off unwarranted gripes! I want my car to make hot coffee and pour it in my lap every morning on the way to work! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But you can just go to McDonald's for that. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent [–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago Now if this piece of regulation passes what’s preventing your government from allowing full blown rollout of ai based fines system using camera networks for example ? This crap lowers the bar in terms of human validation a whole lot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 16 points 5 months ago (2 children) or showing fatigue Oh, you mean like literally every morning as I'm leaving for work? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] johntash@eviltoast.org 17 points 5 months ago Sorry boss, I can't come in today because my car says I'm too tired permalink fedilink source parent [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I'm about to say something that can be read as me supporting this shit, and I do not. However. Driving fatigued is about as unsafe as driving drunk. Assuming you are actually fatigued. There was a time in the past when we allowed people to actively drink and drive. I think - for the most part - not allowing that was a good idea. IN THEORY preventing people from driving fatigued is not a bad idea. IN PRACTICE we all know it won't be as simple as that. But the basic idea itself is… not all bad. It's a pity we know it'll go to shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well we're going to have to figure out something for all the people who take a couple hours to get their brains into gear in the morning if you want to stop that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yes indeed. I don't think it'll be easy at all. Trying to stop intoxicated driving is difficult enough, and that's usually driving that happens "after hours". So this would be ten times more difficult. I suppose, in theory, most of the time forcing the use of some sort of alternate transportation would work, although we'd have to figure out how to make it cheaper. We often drink close to where we live, and work far from where we live. If it was up to me, I'd delay this further and do more research and get more smart people coming up with ideas on how to solve these problems, because it would be worth trying to fix. But then again, there are so many problems we should be tackling, this is a relatively minor one..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Fuck off with your nuanced take. We're here to be irrational and fire off unwarranted gripes! I want my car to make hot coffee and pour it in my lap every morning on the way to work! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But you can just go to McDonald's for that. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] johntash@eviltoast.org 17 points 5 months ago Sorry boss, I can't come in today because my car says I'm too tired permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (2 children) I'm about to say something that can be read as me supporting this shit, and I do not. However. Driving fatigued is about as unsafe as driving drunk. Assuming you are actually fatigued. There was a time in the past when we allowed people to actively drink and drive. I think - for the most part - not allowing that was a good idea. IN THEORY preventing people from driving fatigued is not a bad idea. IN PRACTICE we all know it won't be as simple as that. But the basic idea itself is… not all bad. It's a pity we know it'll go to shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well we're going to have to figure out something for all the people who take a couple hours to get their brains into gear in the morning if you want to stop that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yes indeed. I don't think it'll be easy at all. Trying to stop intoxicated driving is difficult enough, and that's usually driving that happens "after hours". So this would be ten times more difficult. I suppose, in theory, most of the time forcing the use of some sort of alternate transportation would work, although we'd have to figure out how to make it cheaper. We often drink close to where we live, and work far from where we live. If it was up to me, I'd delay this further and do more research and get more smart people coming up with ideas on how to solve these problems, because it would be worth trying to fix. But then again, there are so many problems we should be tackling, this is a relatively minor one..... permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Fuck off with your nuanced take. We're here to be irrational and fire off unwarranted gripes! I want my car to make hot coffee and pour it in my lap every morning on the way to work! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But you can just go to McDonald's for that. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Well we're going to have to figure out something for all the people who take a couple hours to get their brains into gear in the morning if you want to stop that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yes indeed. I don't think it'll be easy at all. Trying to stop intoxicated driving is difficult enough, and that's usually driving that happens "after hours". So this would be ten times more difficult. I suppose, in theory, most of the time forcing the use of some sort of alternate transportation would work, although we'd have to figure out how to make it cheaper. We often drink close to where we live, and work far from where we live. If it was up to me, I'd delay this further and do more research and get more smart people coming up with ideas on how to solve these problems, because it would be worth trying to fix. But then again, there are so many problems we should be tackling, this is a relatively minor one..... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 1 point 5 months ago Yes indeed. I don't think it'll be easy at all. Trying to stop intoxicated driving is difficult enough, and that's usually driving that happens "after hours". So this would be ten times more difficult. I suppose, in theory, most of the time forcing the use of some sort of alternate transportation would work, although we'd have to figure out how to make it cheaper. We often drink close to where we live, and work far from where we live. If it was up to me, I'd delay this further and do more research and get more smart people coming up with ideas on how to solve these problems, because it would be worth trying to fix. But then again, there are so many problems we should be tackling, this is a relatively minor one..... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) Fuck off with your nuanced take. We're here to be irrational and fire off unwarranted gripes! I want my car to make hot coffee and pour it in my lap every morning on the way to work! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But you can just go to McDonald's for that. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But you can just go to McDonald's for that. :) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) But can I trigger it via my home doorbell using a Home Assistant integration? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean..... give it a few more years and quite possibly. lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago Congratulations! Someone is at your door! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago Now if this piece of regulation passes what’s preventing your government from allowing full blown rollout of ai based fines system using camera networks for example ? This crap lowers the bar in terms of human validation a whole lot. permalink fedilink source parent