▲ 957 ▼ It's free real estate (thelemmy.club) submitted 5 months ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@piefed.world to c/tenforward@lemmy.world 143 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children) TBF in the ToS it was ”Where no man has gone before”, not “Where no one has gone before.” So if it was aliens then the statement was correct, we’d just have to skip all the weird human populated worlds they found. permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) And, not take any women along, which of course was never an option on Kirk's ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the time "man" was often used to reference the human species as a whole. Like, when they'd say something like "the dawn of man" they were specifically referring to the earliest humans regardless of gender. Obviously this is not particularly representative of roughly half the species, which is probably why it's less common today. Taking that into consideration, though, TNG's intro is arguably more colonialist than TOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago for most of the history of the word, "man" has generally meant all humanity, or any human. male men were called something like "wer", which survives in "werewolf". permalink fedilink source parent [–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago "Man" and "woman" has never referred to humans exclusively in Star Trek, though. "Mr. Data, you are a clever man - in any time period." permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 child) And, not take any women along, which of course was never an option on Kirk's ship. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the time "man" was often used to reference the human species as a whole. Like, when they'd say something like "the dawn of man" they were specifically referring to the earliest humans regardless of gender. Obviously this is not particularly representative of roughly half the species, which is probably why it's less common today. Taking that into consideration, though, TNG's intro is arguably more colonialist than TOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago for most of the history of the word, "man" has generally meant all humanity, or any human. male men were called something like "wer", which survives in "werewolf". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 months ago* (1 child) At the time "man" was often used to reference the human species as a whole. Like, when they'd say something like "the dawn of man" they were specifically referring to the earliest humans regardless of gender. Obviously this is not particularly representative of roughly half the species, which is probably why it's less common today. Taking that into consideration, though, TNG's intro is arguably more colonialist than TOS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago for most of the history of the word, "man" has generally meant all humanity, or any human. male men were called something like "wer", which survives in "werewolf". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 months ago for most of the history of the word, "man" has generally meant all humanity, or any human. male men were called something like "wer", which survives in "werewolf". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 months ago "Man" and "woman" has never referred to humans exclusively in Star Trek, though. "Mr. Data, you are a clever man - in any time period." permalink fedilink source parent