▲ 963 ▼ 4Chan knew about Jeffrey Epstein's death 38 minutes before the rest of the world. The FBI tried to figure out how. (www.businessinsider.com) submitted 6 months ago by robocall@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 246 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://archive.ph/mbjoZ
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) Yeah there’s also a theory that Ghislaine is out free, someone saw her in Quebec Also someone logged into one of JE’s gaming accounts from Israel like a month ago My bet is he is being sheltered by Israel, and Ghislaine is headed there too Edit- I should have said someone SUPPOSEDLY saw her, that’s on me permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 52 points 6 months ago (3 children) There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago She looks a lot like my stepmom permalink fedilink source parent [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yeah but like 5 billion of the people on earth are either Chinese or Indian EDIT!! I am not racist, it’s just a fact that there are not 8 billion white ladies permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 point 6 months ago It's gotta be at least lower then her changing the shape of her ears and chin. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago (2 children) The ghislaine video was proven to be a faceswap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) This one? https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it. Here's the instagram link, he hasn't put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) This is really cool, thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago That's her face from 10-15 years ago. She has aged. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense. It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing. It's significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn't have these inconsistencies. It's not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video. Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another. The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are. If you're interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven't read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42 Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on "how" people can determine if a video or image has been modified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not sayin I believe it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Here's one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] SoyTDI@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago The gaming account was someone who changed its username and then got banned. permalink fedilink source parent [–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 14 points 6 months ago (1 child) I wouldn't be surprised if that was found out. But I am not comfortable just believing something like that. I don't think that's healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago It’s not a comfortable thing to think about, that’s for sure permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 52 points 6 months ago (3 children) There are 8 BILLION people on this planet. The chances of a Ghislane doppelganger roaming around is not as low as one might think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago She looks a lot like my stepmom permalink fedilink source parent [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yeah but like 5 billion of the people on earth are either Chinese or Indian EDIT!! I am not racist, it’s just a fact that there are not 8 billion white ladies permalink fedilink source parent [–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 point 6 months ago It's gotta be at least lower then her changing the shape of her ears and chin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago She looks a lot like my stepmom permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yeah but like 5 billion of the people on earth are either Chinese or Indian EDIT!! I am not racist, it’s just a fact that there are not 8 billion white ladies permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 point 6 months ago It's gotta be at least lower then her changing the shape of her ears and chin. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago (2 children) The ghislaine video was proven to be a faceswap. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) This one? https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it. Here's the instagram link, he hasn't put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) This is really cool, thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago That's her face from 10-15 years ago. She has aged. permalink fedilink source parent [–] yucandu@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense. It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing. It's significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn't have these inconsistencies. It's not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video. Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another. The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are. If you're interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven't read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42 Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on "how" people can determine if a video or image has been modified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not sayin I believe it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Here's one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children) This one? https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not saying it’s definitive or that it’s NOT a face swap but dang that’s a wild video permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it. Here's the instagram link, he hasn't put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) This is really cool, thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago That's her face from 10-15 years ago. She has aged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Yup! Definitely that one. Showtoolsai has a video explaining the tells on it. Here's the instagram link, he hasn't put it up on YouTube yet: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) This is really cool, thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) This is really cool, thank you permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago No problem! I wish there were more people doing that publicly, and I'm sure there are but I would need to go looking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago That's her face from 10-15 years ago. She has aged. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yucandu@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Proven by whom? How do you even prove such a thing? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense. It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing. It's significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn't have these inconsistencies. It's not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video. Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another. The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are. If you're interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven't read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42 Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on "how" people can determine if a video or image has been modified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not sayin I believe it permalink fedilink source parent [–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Here's one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) Image analysis. When a video is modified it is often pretty simple to tell if there are inconsistencies from an image captured under real world conditions using a camera lense. It's pretty simple to trick the human eye these days. But it's significantly more difficult to modify a real world videos and perform "in-painting" (the more general term for a face swap) without obvious inconsistencies appearing. It's significantly easier to detect these inconsistencies than it is to perform in-painting that doesn't have these inconsistencies. It's not 100% deterministic. But it is enough to conclude that it is more likely than not a digitally modified image/video. Video is MUCH easier to conclude as fake or real too. Because, unlike an image, the in-painting needs to not only work consistently to real world conditions and match the surroundings throughout, but it also has to match seemlessly and naturally to every single frame one after another. The specific techniques are usually dependent on the video. But sometimes something as simple as increasing the contrast on an image can really expose that the pixels of an in-painted portion are not behaving how the surrounding pixels are. If you're interested I found a journal paper that goes over it. Haven't read it myself. But will likely after this comment. But just looking at the images in it can give you an idea of what the image analysis would be looking at. https://www.mdpi.com/2313-433X/10/2/42 Edit: I know nothing about the Maxwell video in question. This is just an answer on "how" people can determine if a video or image has been modified. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not sayin I believe it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago https://youtu.be/Ipcr5m2chZE Not sayin I believe it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago Here's one showtoolsai posted on instagram, its not up on his YouTube yet but he does this for a living and is a great resource for learning AI red flags. https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVJ7hHvD63Q/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SoyTDI@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago The gaming account was someone who changed its username and then got banned. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 14 points 6 months ago (1 child) I wouldn't be surprised if that was found out. But I am not comfortable just believing something like that. I don't think that's healthy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago It’s not a comfortable thing to think about, that’s for sure permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brownsugga@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago It’s not a comfortable thing to think about, that’s for sure permalink fedilink source parent