▲ 613 ▼ Federated End-to-End Encrypted Messaging is Coming Soon (wedistribute.org) submitted 7 months ago by deadsuperhero@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 93 comments fedilink hide all child comments Important progress has been made regarding bringing MLS end-to-end encryption to the ActivityPub protocol, with developers already building implementations and providing feedback to a future version of the protocol spec.
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 96 points 7 months ago (28 children) We do. This is for activitypub DMs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 7 months ago (27 children) That's what I mean. The headline is a lie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 7 months ago ActivityPub is only one of a number of federated protocols. One notably unsuited to instant messaging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 7 months ago (27 children) That's what I mean. The headline is a lie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 7 months ago ActivityPub is only one of a number of federated protocols. One notably unsuited to instant messaging. permalink fedilink source parent [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 7 months ago ActivityPub is only one of a number of federated protocols. One notably unsuited to instant messaging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news -4 points 7 months ago ActivityPub is only one of a number of federated protocols. One notably unsuited to instant messaging. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent