▲ 613 ▼ Federated End-to-End Encrypted Messaging is Coming Soon (wedistribute.org) submitted 7 months ago by deadsuperhero@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world 93 comments fedilink hide all child comments Important progress has been made regarding bringing MLS end-to-end encryption to the ActivityPub protocol, with developers already building implementations and providing feedback to a future version of the protocol spec.
[–] Steve@communick.news 92 points 7 months ago (51 children) I thought we already had Matrix permalink fedilink source hideshow 51 child comments replies: [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 96 points 7 months ago (28 children) We do. This is for activitypub DMs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 7 months ago (27 children) That's what I mean. The headline is a lie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 months ago (19 children) Matrix is decentralized but its not federating in a way like activity pub is doing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 29 points 7 months ago* (4 children) ActivityPub isn't the only way to federate. Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That's what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION! OOOOH YEAH, SEE I'M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!! Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers ELIZABETH!!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) No that's decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 7 months ago share the info natively outside the platform. I'm not even sure that makes sense. Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) How so? It's certainly very similar. The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? And what benefit justifies yet another standard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago (3 children) In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago (3 children) Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) And XMPP before it, even for e2ee messaging. At least this is a slightly different use case. permalink fedilink source parent [–] HailHydra@infosec.pub 10 points 7 months ago Matrix is a poor choice from a cryptographic perspective. With some serious issues historically (some of which are still unfixed to this day), and an extremely poor response to disclosures. https://soatok.blog/2026/02/17/cryptographic-issues-in-matrixs-rust-library-vodozemac/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 96 points 7 months ago (28 children) We do. This is for activitypub DMs. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 7 months ago (27 children) That's what I mean. The headline is a lie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 7 points 7 months ago (27 children) That's what I mean. The headline is a lie. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply) [–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent [–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 85 points 7 months ago (15 children) If I say tacos coming soon, it doesn't mean I invented tacos, just that there will be new tacos I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent [–] whelk@retrolemmy.com 27 points 7 months ago I'll take one permalink fedilink source parent [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 49 points 7 months ago (2 children) I heard this is the line for tacos. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) Lines long as 2, and they only come three ways. Steak, cilantro, lime, cheese with your choice of sauce... Chicken chipotle mixed Mexican blend cheese, and cilantro lime, rice-cauliflower. Sides are open as a bar, self serve. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 point 7 months ago I want beans and rice, no meat! permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) Then I charge you with naming you favorite genre at least. Barbacoa? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago That sounds delicious. I need more pitas in my life. Thoughts of shawarma always make me hungry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news -2 points 7 months ago (6 children) But we already have tacos. If you say "Tacos are coming soon". And we already have tacos. I'd say "What do you mean? Tacos are already here. Do we need more tacos?" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 7 months ago (4 children) Do you just ask if we need more tacos? The answer is always yes... Where is your insatiable hunger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent [–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Waiting for pizza permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Tacos become pizza toppings. Full size tacos, on top of your pizza. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 7 months ago Now that's the insatiable appetite I know. No tacos, no sandwich, no cheese infested bread substances like pizza left behind. I will hate my stomach as it fattens, but so long will it reign. A Pad Thai cheeseburger might kill a man,but it only has one bad quality. Availability permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago Does Trump always chicken out though? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago If anyone ever asks "Do we need more tacos?" it becomes your responsibility to slap this individual. Because obviously yes. The answer is ALWAYS yes. Always more tacos. Always. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (1 reply)
[–] knova@infosec.pub 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) You cannot, two totally different protocols permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (2 children) I mean, there's nothing technically stopping one app supporting both protocols natively, especially since Lemmy already includes a field for people's profiles to link their Matrix ID. Though to my knowledge none do it yet. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] knova@infosec.pub 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) Sure, in the same way there is nothing stopping Lemmy from using ATProto. The problem is all competing standards and what the developer chooses to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 point 7 months ago Perhaps, but I'm describing something slightly different. Your description is basically "one platform supporting two protocols that basically do the same thing". I'm talking more about "one app that has two separate-but-related bits of functionality, each using the more appropriate protocol for that job". permalink fedilink source parent
[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 5 points 7 months ago I, too, am often pissed at clickbaity, exaggerated, deliberately ambiguous headlines. The subtitle makes it clear though: this is about ActivityPub, which has grown into the #1 federation protocol I guess. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world [S] 4 points 7 months ago It's not, the demo video actually shows that being one such use case. There's nothing stopping anyone from writing a chat service in ActivityPub. But this can also apply to statuses, media, all kinds of other stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) No it's not. Matrix isn't part of the Fediverse. It doesn't use ActivityPub and there is no interop with any other Fediverse service. That doesn't make Matrix bad, it just makes it it's own thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 7 months ago ActivityPub isn't the only way to be federated. Email is federated. Email isn't ActivityPub. Matrix is no different. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 17 points 7 months ago (19 children) Matrix is decentralized but its not federating in a way like activity pub is doing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 29 points 7 months ago* (4 children) ActivityPub isn't the only way to federate. Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That's what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION! OOOOH YEAH, SEE I'M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!! Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers ELIZABETH!!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) No that's decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 7 months ago share the info natively outside the platform. I'm not even sure that makes sense. Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) How so? It's certainly very similar. The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies) [–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? And what benefit justifies yet another standard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago (3 children) In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago (3 children) Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 29 points 7 months ago* (4 children) ActivityPub isn't the only way to federate. Matrix is federating the same way email does. Anyone can spin up their own server. And if they want anyone can spin up their own software. That's what federation is. Different servers agreeing on how to communicate with each other. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION! OOOOH YEAH, SEE I'M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!! Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers ELIZABETH!!! permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) No that's decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 7 months ago share the info natively outside the platform. I'm not even sure that makes sense. Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago What??? I thought being part of Federation meant being part of the WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION! OOOOH YEAH, SEE I'M ALWAYS THINKIN THINKIN THINKIN, YEAH. AND WHEN IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE, WE DO THING IN THE RING! DIG IT! THE TOWER OF POWER TOO SWEET TO BE SOUR, FUNKY LIKE A MONKEY! OOOOOOH YEEEAAAHHHH!!!! Pomp and circumstance plays over the house speakers ELIZABETH!!! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] confuser@lemmy.zip 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) No that's decentralization, federating is when you can share the info natively outside the platform. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 7 months ago share the info natively outside the platform. I'm not even sure that makes sense. Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol? permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Steve@communick.news 8 points 7 months ago share the info natively outside the platform. I'm not even sure that makes sense. Federating is based on protocols not platforms. And what does it mean to share natively if not using the protocol? permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 7 months ago (4 children) How so? It's certainly very similar. The matrix protocol enables federation between different instances running different homeservers between users using different clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments load more comments (4 replies)
[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (8 children) What do you mean? And what benefit justifies yet another standard? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago (3 children) In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent [–] confuser@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago (3 children) Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 8 points 7 months ago (3 children) In this day and age we need as many open source e2e encrypted alternatives as possible. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) Matrix is a protocol, not an “App”. We would all benefit if everyone stopped doing their own thing, and started to push stuff for Matrix. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago (1 child) Huh? ActivityPub is also a protocol, now with this feature, why does that extra feature stop people from using Matrix? Matrix has a list of specs, and ActivityPub has a different list, there may be some overlap but what's the problem here? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago Because this is being advertised as federated end to end encrypted chat. They already exists and it’s called matrix, and it works damn well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] confuser@lemmy.zip -1 points 7 months ago (3 children) Matrix does not connect natively to discord as an example, every user of a matrix protocol is still within matrix permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago (1 child) Activitypub doesn't connect natively to my toaster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 7 months ago Sounds like you need to upgrade your toaster, noob. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 1 point 7 months ago So? Does anything connect to discord, legally and natively? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) And XMPP before it, even for e2ee messaging. At least this is a slightly different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HailHydra@infosec.pub 10 points 7 months ago Matrix is a poor choice from a cryptographic perspective. With some serious issues historically (some of which are still unfixed to this day), and an extremely poor response to disclosures. https://soatok.blog/2026/02/17/cryptographic-issues-in-matrixs-rust-library-vodozemac/ permalink fedilink source parent