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Get to it, Chicago! (thelemmy.club)
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Info on the top lady & statue: https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/woman-nazi-handbag-sweden-1985/

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[–] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Reading the sources, it primarily sounds like she was embarrassed of looking like an old lady in the photo, and afraid of Nazis striking back at her and her family.

One of the sources is her husband's coworker who said, "Danuta was mentally ill, but she had a solid hatred of Nazis as a Pole. She probably got caught up in the hateful atmosphere that was whipped up against the NRP-demonstrators in Växjö."

I don't care for how that's phrased, both in that he's speculating about her and that he seems to think you need some kind of personal grudge in order to oppose fascism.

If there's a source saying she regretted the action in itself, I missed it.

e: I was mistaken about that quote. It's from the article, but it's not attributed as a direct quote from the coworker. Swedish doesn't always use quotation marks, so I read it as a direct quote mistakenly, but it lacks a dash at the start of the paragraph. Without knowing the original I can't be sure how much the author is paraphrasing or speculating.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    I can let you know that there is a lot of white and sane-washing of nazi ideology in Sweden today. The nazi party is literally the largest party in Sweden and could even achieve a majority vote in this fall's elections. Yes, you read that right.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It says that it's from the 2015 documentary. It's linked, but not transcribed. I've not listened to it yet so I can't say either way.

    Were it me, I could see myself regretting the general event (händelsen), and the whole thing around it. Don't think I'd regret punching a nazi. They have it coming.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I unfortunately can't listen to it myself, so I just went off the text under it and the Expressen article about it. (I can hear, but my brain doesn't cooperate at listening.) I can't understand why they don't just transcribe the entries.

    Relevant: https://www.sverigesradio.se/artikel/7424380

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago*

    Yeah I was looking for a transcription because I'm not quite in the mood to sit and listen to a documentary right now, but I might tomorrow.

    Edit: that article kind of pisses me off. "We don't get money to make our content accessible."

    We all pay taxes for that content, including deaf people. They should have equal access to it.

    Granted this could be a right-wingers thing. I think they restricted how detailed SVT can report on things because "state owned media would unfairly compete with private media otherwise." Fucking bollocks.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Right so I got to the point in the documentary where they mention it, it's around 36:50 in.

    Vad hände då med Björn och Danuta efter att bilden hade publicerats och det blev väldigt pådrag?
    Hon blev ju anmäld för förargtsökande beteende (unsure), och hon hade varit lite ångerfull och orolig, att hon ångrade sig för hon var rädd för att hon skulle få skit för detta. Att det skulle drabba henne på något sätt. Hon ville inte gå ut då, sa han, hon höll sig hemma. Det var väl hon tänkte då att hon var i främmande land, att så gör man inte här.

    Off the cuff, rough translation:

    What happened with Björn and Danuta after the photograph had been published, and things got out of hand?
    A complaint was filed against her, and she became a little regretful and worried, that she regretted (the event) because she was afraid she'd catch shit for it. That it'd negatively affect her in some manner. She didn't want to go outside, he said, she kept to herself at home. She probably thought that she was in a foreign country, that this isn't the way you do things here.

    The documentary highlights that initially no one knew who she was. There were rumours published in the news about a 54 year old woman making her way to Sweden from Poland just to attend the demonstration. That she'd previously been in a concentration camp.

    It also mentions that she herself was just kind of looking for a new start in Sweden. She worked hard to blend in, and wanted to earn the respect of those around her. It mentions her growing up raised by her grandmother, because her own mother lived with trauma from the nazis and couldn't handle it. How she in turn was traumatised, and it was something she struggled with.

    It doesn't strike me that she regretted punching a nazi, but more that she wished it hadn't happened because she feared the fallout, particularly given how hard she'd worked to start a new life. I'd imagine she feared all it collapsing around her. Supposedly the police never published her information, and they never got harassed by anyone, but she and her husband did request and were approved for police protection in the event of potential fallout.

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