▲ 1468 ▼ Just saying (thelemmy.club) submitted 6 months ago by JimmyMemes@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world 252 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 21 points 6 months ago (1 child) You can double check it but I think solar is cheaper now. I was shocked as well, I thought nuclear was the cheapest still. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sommerset -3 points 6 months ago* (5 children) But solar is unreliable. Night day, snow cover, dust cover. It also has to be local and supplemented by other sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 6 months ago Energy production being local is a benefit. Just like the fediverse being unaffected by some servers going down. Deliberately or accidentally, doesn't matter, the rest will keep up. Smaller production is also easier to scale up. You can erect a solar farm in a month or shorter, while a nuclear power plant takes a decade to build. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Batteries. Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. It's remarkable but true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice. Buying from the 100% green power providers is more expensive. Natural gas is extremely cheap after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago Natural gas is extremely cheap subsidized after all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago But solar is unreliable. Which is why you add storage and wind to the mix. Overproduce energy when it's available and store the leftovers for when you under-produce. At this point, saying Solar doesn't work at night is kind of like saying cars don't work without wheels. No one is getting solar without storage, just like no one is driving a car without wheels. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago Why do you think solar has to be local? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yep, the unreliability is exactly why buying from 100% green energy providers is more expensive than buying from natural gas providers. Batteries are extremely expensive, natural gas is cheap. Source: Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice; the green providers cost more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sommerset -3 points 6 months ago* (5 children) But solar is unreliable. Night day, snow cover, dust cover. It also has to be local and supplemented by other sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 6 months ago Energy production being local is a benefit. Just like the fediverse being unaffected by some servers going down. Deliberately or accidentally, doesn't matter, the rest will keep up. Smaller production is also easier to scale up. You can erect a solar farm in a month or shorter, while a nuclear power plant takes a decade to build. permalink fedilink source parent [–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Batteries. Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. It's remarkable but true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice. Buying from the 100% green power providers is more expensive. Natural gas is extremely cheap after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago Natural gas is extremely cheap subsidized after all. permalink fedilink source parent [–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago But solar is unreliable. Which is why you add storage and wind to the mix. Overproduce energy when it's available and store the leftovers for when you under-produce. At this point, saying Solar doesn't work at night is kind of like saying cars don't work without wheels. No one is getting solar without storage, just like no one is driving a car without wheels. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago Why do you think solar has to be local? permalink fedilink source parent [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yep, the unreliability is exactly why buying from 100% green energy providers is more expensive than buying from natural gas providers. Batteries are extremely expensive, natural gas is cheap. Source: Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice; the green providers cost more. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bstix@feddit.dk 4 points 6 months ago Energy production being local is a benefit. Just like the fediverse being unaffected by some servers going down. Deliberately or accidentally, doesn't matter, the rest will keep up. Smaller production is also easier to scale up. You can erect a solar farm in a month or shorter, while a nuclear power plant takes a decade to build. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) Batteries. Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. It's remarkable but true. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice. Buying from the 100% green power providers is more expensive. Natural gas is extremely cheap after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago Natural gas is extremely cheap subsidized after all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (1 child) Batteries plus solar is still cheaper than all other power systems. Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice. Buying from the 100% green power providers is more expensive. Natural gas is extremely cheap after all. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago Natural gas is extremely cheap subsidized after all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago Natural gas is extremely cheap subsidized after all. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago But solar is unreliable. Which is why you add storage and wind to the mix. Overproduce energy when it's available and store the leftovers for when you under-produce. At this point, saying Solar doesn't work at night is kind of like saying cars don't work without wheels. No one is getting solar without storage, just like no one is driving a car without wheels. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 point 6 months ago Why do you think solar has to be local? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago* Yep, the unreliability is exactly why buying from 100% green energy providers is more expensive than buying from natural gas providers. Batteries are extremely expensive, natural gas is cheap. Source: Several of my friends live in states with energy provider choice; the green providers cost more. permalink fedilink source parent