FishFace comments on gmail is the signal of the rich

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

No I think it's very important that Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, two child sex traffickers, former also a child sexual abuser, were convicted and imprisoned. They were not the "two faces", they were facilitating (and in Epstein's case, partaking in) the illegal, immoral acts we're talking about.

You don't know if the rape gang carried on. You've got no evidence for it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it's just wrong to say without evidence.

Saying it contributes to a world where it's normal to just accuse people of shit. It doesn't only blow onto the wealthy and the powerful who you think are bad - the giant paedophile conspiracy theory which you're subscribing to helped elect Trump. It never mattered that Trump was mentioned in the files - it never mattered what was true because people like the OP, people like you, chat a load of shit and think it's ok. You can do better.

That is why I care about it. So no, I didn't got'em, because you don't get it.

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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (1 child)

You don't know if the rape gang carried on. You've got no evidence for it. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but it's just wrong to say without evidence.

Respectfully, this is terminally naive. While you're correct we have no evidence of it continuing, we DO have evidence that there was a raid in his property and none of the blackmail material we've heard about from multiple people over many years, including video evidence, was found and there have been 0 additional convictions related to it so far after over 6 years.

So there are only a few options:

these two were the only ones involved in a massive child rape gang, and no additional evidence was found
these weren't the only 2 involved, but no evidence was found and the gang just disbanded

2a) same as 2, but they didn't disband and are continuing raping children

these weren't the only two involved, and evidence was found but not actioned.

Anything past 3 is complicity, and the only two options I can see for the rape gang not continuing are only likely if you know absolutely nothing about how people operate.

And given that Jeff's buddy is the goddamned president and has already shown he's not afraid to lean on the justice department, along with Epstein being allowed to operate as an open secret for DECADES, anything short of proof it was stopped is effectively proof it hasn't.

When the pedo elite get to rape kids with everyone turning a blind eye, there is no good faith argument without evidence that it is not still going on. And I don't care what side you're on, until we have evidence they were stopped, we CANNOT assume they have. In this situation, you have to assume malice given the history of it already.

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[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 8 months ago

And I don’t care what side you’re on, until we have evidence they were stopped, we CANNOT assume they have.

Absolutely. Not saying "it's still happening" doesn't mean believing it has stopped.

While you’re correct we have no evidence of it continuing, we DO have evidence that there was a raid in his property and none of the blackmail material we’ve heard about from multiple people over many years, including video evidence

But loads of material that fits the description of "blackmail material" has now been released. So far it has not been anything that could convict anyone - but it has undoubtedly been incriminating. So there's an obvious possibility that material was found but it did not amount to usable evidence.

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