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OpenStreetMap is concerned: thousands of AI bots are collecting data (www.heise.de)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/openstreetmap@lemmy.ml
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/57995511

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[–] 1 point 8 months ago (7 children)

They definitely take additions from osm however Google seems incapable of noticing changes or deletions for osm. Which as led to some roads going through new houses near me. So I'd be cautious if they provide mapping data back to the project

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago*

    It's illegal, you should report it if you are sure it was from osm. But I guess they get data like that directly from municipalities, or road construction companies, or from the traces of users they spy on

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (5 children)

    @Theoriginalthon @DrCake I imagine google is very careful about ever adding anything from OSM.

    If they take OSM map edis, they have to release all their data

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 8 months ago* (4 children)

    How I understand it, they wouldn't have to release it if they do it correctly. ODbL allows some mixing with proprietary sources, as listed here: https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Horizontal_Map_Layers_-_Guideline

    The principle that a map maker can make and publish a map made from several distinct horizontal layers without being obliged to share data from the non-OpenStreetMap layers has been established for several years and is much clearer with the switch to the ODbL. Here we formalise and state what we are happy with and give examples that we hope will help potential OpenStreetMap users with incompatible sources.

    https://osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They have definitely taken my edits on osm and added to Google maps. Some farm buildings got demolished and housing built on the spot. I was the one who added the buildings in the first place then removed then as they got demolished, then added roads new outlines etc. Google has the road going through the farm building. On the licencing front I've got no idea

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    should we add fake roads to osm to see if Boogle will add them (like paper map publishers used to do) ?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    thanks for the link

    Does OSM have copyright easter eggs?
    Although some OSMers have deliberately added errors to the OSM data as well (see posting on legal-talk by User:80n), this is strictly discouraged and contrary to OSM policy. It's also very unnecessary. Even if we seek to represent reality perfectly, that will never be the reality of map data. With OpenStreetMap there's a very unique and distinct fingerprint evident in the data coverage and details included, and yes, in the errors made. For example in 2012 the OpenStreetMap foundation could issue a statement with absolute confidence that Apple had used our maps (without crediting us) based on very evident copying, and without the need for introduced errors.

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