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Apple to Soon Take Up to 30% Cut From All Patreon Creators in iOS App (www.macrumors.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/59469059

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[–] 20 points 7 months ago* (9 children)

What's wrong with Patreon? They advertise a 10% fee. It may be a little more complicated than that but 10% seems pretty reasonable considering the services they offer.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    They are an American tech company.

    From what I remember, they did try to heavily raise fees and worsen the experience on their platform "my next trillion users ... life changing blah blah .. my ARPU", but then backed off when they got public pushback. They will do it again when they think they can get away with it.

    Better to use something like liberapay.

    That's what I use to donate to Piefed development and I've been meaning try and pitch this platform to my Patreon list.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    How is 10% reasonable. They just transfer money from A to B while showing people some static html text about the options. They basically do nothing.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

    I wouldn’t say these services are nothing. Are they worth 10%? Eh.

    A 90/10 split for content creators who otherwise wouldn’t know how to build and operate their own platform doesn’t sound like a terrible deal. It’s not amazing but if there were better options, Patreon may not be so popular.

    Edit: I want to clarify. Patreon is a for profit company who has apparently tried raising prices already and back tracked. Eventually, Patreon will try and squeeze out more profit from the creators and the user base will be big enough that Patreon will have the leverage to do so; we’ve all seen it before. I’m not saying Patreon is a good company, I’m not saying they won’t be dicks in the future, I’m not saying the system as it is, is good. I’m only saying 10% isn’t a bad deal when so many other options are worse (ex. Apple taking 30%)

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It's always getting fleeced with you guys and being fine with slightly less fleecing, when that is just a way to entice and reach a point where they can monopolize the market and fleece like the big dogs.

    And then a new company with slightly less fleecing appears, with board members from previous company.

    Rinse and repeat.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago*

    I understand your view and sympathize deeply but there is a lot wrong in the world today and if I have to divert energy somewhere to try and change something, Patreon's 10/90 split is at the bottom of the list for me at the moment. Regular working class people aren't getting that good of a deal at the jobs they work at. I'm not even talking 90/10, just getting their .01% of the profits in a 1000 person org for their contribution would probably be life changing.

    You are right but our frames of reference are different.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    Patreon stopped being benevolent years ago when they changed their pricing model to exploit small donors more.

    Send money directly using Monero. Avoid as much 'overhead' as possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    I’d love to but it’s a chicken and egg thing. Regular people don’t understand bitcoin let alone monero. On top of that, you still have fees for converting from a currency to monero and again from monero to a currency, so there’s still a middle man :/

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