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Bill Clinton's Turn To Finger-Wag... (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

There's too much to explain how fucking awful bill Clinton is and how hard he fucked us from NAFTA to the crime bill and so much in between. So laugh your ass off to this and see you in a few hours.

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/299-the-dollop-with-dave-27979491/episode/700-bill-clinton-with-james-293125259/

Also the Democratic supermajority killing Bernie when he was winning the vast majority of popular votes of the Democratic primary made it clear to many that the Democratic party isn't ever going to work in their interest or budge a fraction left of enabling conservatives. There's just zero evidence that he wasn't going to win, but there was plenty that Hillary was much less popular.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (1 child)

    Jesus Christ some jackasses podcast isn't a source. This dumb fuckery is why Americans deserve what we're getting, we're a bunch of belligerent dumb fucks listening to other dumb fucks like they know shit. Bernie got barely half the primary votes that Hillary got. It wasn't even close. Bernie was popular with progressives who didn't register Dem or vote in the primary. Y'all are too stupid to understand first past the post or the spoiler effect or the way the two party system means you have to vote for the lesser of two evils or you are explicitly condoning the greater evil. If you wanted Bernie you all should have registered Dem and voted for him in the primary but you didn't, nevermind that Bernie isn't even a fucking Dem and the idea he'd get the party nom was ridiculous from the get go. Fucks sake the Bernie bullshit is literally Russian propaganda and I'm tired of hearing idiots repeat it.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Idk bout ur whole argument of russian propaganda but

    "Y'all are too stupid to understand first past the post or the spoiler effect or the way the two party system means you have to vote for the lesser of two evils or you are explicitly condoning the greater evil."

    Is both seemingly valid and entirely a crock of shit that will result in ratcheting towards fascism every single time.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    No it won't if you primary establishment with progressives and actual leftists. If progressives had registered and voted in Dem primaries everywhere every time we'd have an actually progressive party. But too many dipshits buy the both sides bullshit.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It really doesn't play out like that though.

    Blaming the voter base will never work, and just serves the interest of the right wing steer.

    You must hold the dems accountable, and primary them for sure.

    But both sides ARE terrible and the dems are highly complicit, it's not about people 'buying' anything, it's about not rewarding people who happily increase funding to ICE under the current scenario.

    You can't expect fundamentally disenfranchised people to play in a game that's rigged against good without inspiring them with hope.

    Look at Mamdani, there were no candidates in the 2024 election like that. Why? Simple... THERE WAS NO DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

    BLAME THE PARTY, who forced this upon us! They lost an easily winnable election, no-one else is half as culpable.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    It doesn't play out that way because you and people like you refuse to take any responsibility or accountability for yourselves and don't vote. All of you willfully let the republicans take over and do this. Everything happening right now is the direct fault and responsibility of everyone who did not vote Democrat in every primary and general since 2016. It's utterly fucked that you need feel the need to be convinced to vote on your best interests, even when it's fucking existential, and here you still are refusing to take responsibility for your lack of civil engagement. Everything about your whole take is why Americans deserve what's happening to us. Most of us couldn't be fucked to do the bare goddamn minimum. Americans are fully utterly totally responsible for everything the Trump regime is doing. Take some goddamn responsibility for yourself.

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