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[–] 69 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Not really. To you, antifa is a loosely-if-at-all organised collection of people united by opposition to fascism. To them, it's a real organisation with actual members who use violence against the government. To you, because the collection isn't really organised, the name determines what it is. To them, because it's a real organisation, the name can be a lie and doesn't matter. To you, direct action against the government is justified, because they're in the process of creating a fascist state. To them, the government isn't fascist, so action against the government can't be on the basis of anti-fascism; antifa must therefore be a dishonest label.

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  • [–] 51 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Ah, but you have made the classical mistake of assuming they think/ actually believe what they are saying and arent just trying to disenfranchise billions.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Who's "they", now? I think that plenty of politicians knowingly misrepresent things like this, but I don't think the average Trump voter/Fox news watcher understands. Otherwise the politicians and the news just wouldn't have to lie.

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