▲ 126 ▼ Study of men who embodied a young woman in VR finds they felt disgust & anger when catcalled (thelemmy.club) submitted 8 months ago by Champoloo@hexbear.net to c/science@hexbear.net 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://phys.org/news/2025-12-men-embodying-women-vr-strong.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-19418-4
[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 86 points 8 months ago (1 child) Explaining things to men: Imagine a video game permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] CommCat@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago* (2 children) this study sounds a bit rediculous to be honest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's not ridiculous. There is a whole phenomenon where players behave differently in online games depending on the personality and social expectations others will have of the character they are playing as. If your character is expected to be a dick players act more like a dick, whereas if your character is expected to be nice players act more nicely. This occurs with the same players playing on different characters. This is called the "Proteus Effect" if you want to look into it more deeply. Given that occurs I don't find it difficult to think that people would get into the role and atmosphere even more when doing it in VR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (3 children) Okay but like what if I'm support and my carry insists on tower diving at level 2 against 4 champs with hard CC? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago I'm both permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago This post just gave me League PTSD flashbacks. Fucking ADC's man. Stg they'll piss their own pants and blame you for it if someone isn't around to hold their penis for them when they pee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago and it's league so you can't even buy a force staff to help them feed more permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual study is interesting as part of a larger series of tests to demonstrate if VR can be used as a reliable clinical and therapeutic tool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Does it say how that went? My vibe is that VR would in the long term foster a sense of isolation in the user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* I think it's too quick of an experience to feel isolation. They do a survey, put on the set and do a scene where they can see a mirror where they are a 'woman' then they are put on a train platform to wait for a train to arrive, get on the train. Then take off the set, and do an exit survey. In conjunction with a therapist I can imagine it being useful in some exposure therapies, but an unfortunate amount of the phrasing in the paper makes me think they're trying to pitch this as 'solo AI VR therapy is possible.' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago* (2 children) this study sounds a bit rediculous to be honest permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's not ridiculous. There is a whole phenomenon where players behave differently in online games depending on the personality and social expectations others will have of the character they are playing as. If your character is expected to be a dick players act more like a dick, whereas if your character is expected to be nice players act more nicely. This occurs with the same players playing on different characters. This is called the "Proteus Effect" if you want to look into it more deeply. Given that occurs I don't find it difficult to think that people would get into the role and atmosphere even more when doing it in VR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (3 children) Okay but like what if I'm support and my carry insists on tower diving at level 2 against 4 champs with hard CC? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago I'm both permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago This post just gave me League PTSD flashbacks. Fucking ADC's man. Stg they'll piss their own pants and blame you for it if someone isn't around to hold their penis for them when they pee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago and it's league so you can't even buy a force staff to help them feed more permalink fedilink source parent [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual study is interesting as part of a larger series of tests to demonstrate if VR can be used as a reliable clinical and therapeutic tool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Does it say how that went? My vibe is that VR would in the long term foster a sense of isolation in the user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* I think it's too quick of an experience to feel isolation. They do a survey, put on the set and do a scene where they can see a mirror where they are a 'woman' then they are put on a train platform to wait for a train to arrive, get on the train. Then take off the set, and do an exit survey. In conjunction with a therapist I can imagine it being useful in some exposure therapies, but an unfortunate amount of the phrasing in the paper makes me think they're trying to pitch this as 'solo AI VR therapy is possible.' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 65 points 8 months ago (1 child) It's not ridiculous. There is a whole phenomenon where players behave differently in online games depending on the personality and social expectations others will have of the character they are playing as. If your character is expected to be a dick players act more like a dick, whereas if your character is expected to be nice players act more nicely. This occurs with the same players playing on different characters. This is called the "Proteus Effect" if you want to look into it more deeply. Given that occurs I don't find it difficult to think that people would get into the role and atmosphere even more when doing it in VR. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (3 children) Okay but like what if I'm support and my carry insists on tower diving at level 2 against 4 champs with hard CC? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago I'm both permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago This post just gave me League PTSD flashbacks. Fucking ADC's man. Stg they'll piss their own pants and blame you for it if someone isn't around to hold their penis for them when they pee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago and it's league so you can't even buy a force staff to help them feed more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (3 children) Okay but like what if I'm support and my carry insists on tower diving at level 2 against 4 champs with hard CC? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago I'm both permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago This post just gave me League PTSD flashbacks. Fucking ADC's man. Stg they'll piss their own pants and blame you for it if someone isn't around to hold their penis for them when they pee. permalink fedilink source parent [–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago and it's league so you can't even buy a force staff to help them feed more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (4 children) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent [–] Florn@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago I'm both permalink fedilink source parent [–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago i think this could also work for many real life nurses as well permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* My MMO career was more like you think I’m your mother but guess what I’m GOD if you live it is by my grace if you die it is by my design. fear is not what you owe me you owe me AWE I didn’t get along with many people permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kefla@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago FFXIV be like "ok healer sulk if you like, I'll heal myself" and then the tank just solos the dungeon permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago This post just gave me League PTSD flashbacks. Fucking ADC's man. Stg they'll piss their own pants and blame you for it if someone isn't around to hold their penis for them when they pee. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago and it's league so you can't even buy a force staff to help them feed more permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 child) The actual study is interesting as part of a larger series of tests to demonstrate if VR can be used as a reliable clinical and therapeutic tool permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Does it say how that went? My vibe is that VR would in the long term foster a sense of isolation in the user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* I think it's too quick of an experience to feel isolation. They do a survey, put on the set and do a scene where they can see a mirror where they are a 'woman' then they are put on a train platform to wait for a train to arrive, get on the train. Then take off the set, and do an exit survey. In conjunction with a therapist I can imagine it being useful in some exposure therapies, but an unfortunate amount of the phrasing in the paper makes me think they're trying to pitch this as 'solo AI VR therapy is possible.' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (1 child) Does it say how that went? My vibe is that VR would in the long term foster a sense of isolation in the user. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Crucible@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* I think it's too quick of an experience to feel isolation. They do a survey, put on the set and do a scene where they can see a mirror where they are a 'woman' then they are put on a train platform to wait for a train to arrive, get on the train. Then take off the set, and do an exit survey. In conjunction with a therapist I can imagine it being useful in some exposure therapies, but an unfortunate amount of the phrasing in the paper makes me think they're trying to pitch this as 'solo AI VR therapy is possible.' permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* I think it's too quick of an experience to feel isolation. They do a survey, put on the set and do a scene where they can see a mirror where they are a 'woman' then they are put on a train platform to wait for a train to arrive, get on the train. Then take off the set, and do an exit survey. In conjunction with a therapist I can imagine it being useful in some exposure therapies, but an unfortunate amount of the phrasing in the paper makes me think they're trying to pitch this as 'solo AI VR therapy is possible.' permalink fedilink source parent
