▲ 126 ▼ Study of men who embodied a young woman in VR finds they felt disgust & anger when catcalled (thelemmy.club) submitted 8 months ago by Champoloo@hexbear.net to c/science@hexbear.net 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://phys.org/news/2025-12-men-embodying-women-vr-strong.html https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-19418-4
[+] vegeta1@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (7 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 14 child comments replies: [–] Beaver@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago Some of it's definitely a power and cruelty dynamic... but you might be surprised by how much of it just because some dudes are the dumbest motherfuckers imaginable. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nasalstrip@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago It’s definitely a power thing, it’s pathetic worm behavior. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago Asserting dominance? This one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago Being a weird creepy sex-pest: women hate you Being nice and treating women like humans: women like you Wow, who would have thought! permalink fedilink source parent [–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Because they constantly need to reaffirm their masculine role in society. They do this to make sure they are Very Male, totally not gay when they are among other males but they also behave like this when they are alone to soothe their insecurities. One way of doing this is to "remind" women of their place by degradation, to them masculinity is being always on top and active. It's about making women uncomfortable on purpose, the catcalling phrases ranges from stupid to straight out obscene just for the sake of reaffirming the power structure of heteronormativity. A male always gives orders, a male always penetrates and never gets penetrated (consider sex positions, the penetrated is usually below and "passive", both literally and metaphorically). In some cultures even performing cunnilingus to a woman was/is considered "effeminate" and being accused of performing it on ancient Rome was the today's equivalent of being insulted with common pejorative words questioning the masculinity of the person performing such act. EDIT: use of derogatory language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think intentionally dodging the filters is a bad look, even if to prove a point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) You are right, I'll edit the post. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone. I'm sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago All's well that ends well! I just know they're there for a reason. Thanks for being cool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (2 children) sometimes I see someone looking nice and I wanna be like "hey! you look good in that outfit over there!" but then i have to stop myself so im not part of the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago “Hey cool jacket” is only catcalling if theyre not wearing a jacket permalink fedilink source parent [–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think being specific and not complimenting someone based on their physical appearance goes a long way to not making it weird. I complemented someone's sashiko work on her pants and it wasn't weird or uncomfortable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago i just don't interact because also I know a lot of people (me, my partner) don't want to be perceived by others at all even if I weren't being a big man about it permalink fedilink source parent [–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago Patriarchal domination permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 43 points 8 months ago Some of it's definitely a power and cruelty dynamic... but you might be surprised by how much of it just because some dudes are the dumbest motherfuckers imaginable. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nasalstrip@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago It’s definitely a power thing, it’s pathetic worm behavior. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago Asserting dominance? This one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago Being a weird creepy sex-pest: women hate you Being nice and treating women like humans: women like you Wow, who would have thought! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Because they constantly need to reaffirm their masculine role in society. They do this to make sure they are Very Male, totally not gay when they are among other males but they also behave like this when they are alone to soothe their insecurities. One way of doing this is to "remind" women of their place by degradation, to them masculinity is being always on top and active. It's about making women uncomfortable on purpose, the catcalling phrases ranges from stupid to straight out obscene just for the sake of reaffirming the power structure of heteronormativity. A male always gives orders, a male always penetrates and never gets penetrated (consider sex positions, the penetrated is usually below and "passive", both literally and metaphorically). In some cultures even performing cunnilingus to a woman was/is considered "effeminate" and being accused of performing it on ancient Rome was the today's equivalent of being insulted with common pejorative words questioning the masculinity of the person performing such act. EDIT: use of derogatory language. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think intentionally dodging the filters is a bad look, even if to prove a point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) You are right, I'll edit the post. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone. I'm sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago All's well that ends well! I just know they're there for a reason. Thanks for being cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think intentionally dodging the filters is a bad look, even if to prove a point. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) You are right, I'll edit the post. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone. I'm sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago All's well that ends well! I just know they're there for a reason. Thanks for being cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] WasteTime@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 child) You are right, I'll edit the post. It wasn't my intention to offend anyone. I'm sorry. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago All's well that ends well! I just know they're there for a reason. Thanks for being cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago All's well that ends well! I just know they're there for a reason. Thanks for being cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago (2 children) sometimes I see someone looking nice and I wanna be like "hey! you look good in that outfit over there!" but then i have to stop myself so im not part of the problem permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago “Hey cool jacket” is only catcalling if theyre not wearing a jacket permalink fedilink source parent [–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think being specific and not complimenting someone based on their physical appearance goes a long way to not making it weird. I complemented someone's sashiko work on her pants and it wasn't weird or uncomfortable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago i just don't interact because also I know a lot of people (me, my partner) don't want to be perceived by others at all even if I weren't being a big man about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago “Hey cool jacket” is only catcalling if theyre not wearing a jacket permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 child) I think being specific and not complimenting someone based on their physical appearance goes a long way to not making it weird. I complemented someone's sashiko work on her pants and it wasn't weird or uncomfortable. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago i just don't interact because also I know a lot of people (me, my partner) don't want to be perceived by others at all even if I weren't being a big man about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago i just don't interact because also I know a lot of people (me, my partner) don't want to be perceived by others at all even if I weren't being a big man about it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago Patriarchal domination permalink fedilink source parent